F1 » Reliability problem 'a priority' for Renault, RBR


Renault and Red Bull Racing have vowed to do all they can to resolve the alternator problem that sidelined Sebastian Vettel for the second time in F1 2012.

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richard

September 10, 2012 1:38 PM

commodore. the old alternator went in fp3, and he was allowed to change it before quali. had it failed in quali, the fia could accept it as force majeur, and he would have been allowed to change it. just as ferdi was allowed to fix their rollbar. the aim is not to stop cars competing in the race, but to try and ensure that they do.
such things as engines, gearboxes can be changed after quali too, but with penalty.

CommodoreS

September 10, 2012 2:09 PM

So Seb uses the new alternator and has 2 failures.

Mark uses the old alternator and it is fine.

Right?

2nd Question: If RBR had trepidations why not start Seb from Pitlane to avoid Park Ferme and revert back to the old alternator

richard

September 10, 2012 2:21 PM

commodore not sure what alternator mark was using, but horner stated that there was no problem at spa, so they left well alone on sebs car. again, am not sure which type he put on sebs car after practice, but i think i heard somewhere, that it was actually one of the older stock as they did not have any more new ones. that is the reason that he was nervous about it lasting. and as i said earlier, they warned mark that seb could be stopping, well before he actually did, so they must have seen some evidence of overheating. maybe more info will come out, but renault have admitted that it was their fault

The turkey - Unregistered

September 11, 2012 12:34 AM

Where are all the conspiracy fantasists now? How is it possible that Seb cops 3 failed alternators yet none for Mark? I though Webbo was the one supposedly being sabotaged by the team. At the least you would expect the "good" unit on Mark's car to be switched onto Vettel's. But no, RBR seems to somehow be playing fair here, or just victims of coincidence.

rob01

September 11, 2012 1:04 AM

Richie.. you are mightly pompus when you excuse Red Bulls creative answers.. and yet they were allow to keep the points. McLaren may have had the same creative answers as the Bulls and got the same concessions minus the points. Just thought you may want to look at the other side instead of constantly pointing a finger at McLaren when four were pointed back at your Bulls.

rob01

September 11, 2012 1:33 AM

As to reliability.. Horner has also said that the Renault was down on power at Monza. Must have been due to usage as the engine has been the same since 06. Last time they mentioned power or the lack of it was to fix issues to help with the off throttle blowing. Tricky little devils they are.

richard

September 11, 2012 11:00 AM
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rob. nothing pompous about pointing out that the bulls have NEVER been found to be cheating, despite the rhetoric from some here. creative innovation is the name of the ghame in f1.
there were no claims of cheating when the dd was introduced, no claims of cheating when the f duct was introduced etc. all the bulls innovations had been passed as LEGAL by fia, and we must assume that the rule makers are the best to judge.
and yes, i point the finger at macca, as all the rhetoric comes from macca fanboys. the third pedal was a deliberate attempt to bypass tractioncontrol, until spotted. the bent floor was a deliberate attempt to fool fia. but they were caught !

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