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Fernando Alonso says Ferrari needs to end McLaren's winning run as F1 heads for Singapore

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107SS2009

September 21, 2012 4:45 AM

@Rob (roBO1), Renault sports F1 deputy managing director Rob White explains, It (the alternator) is a Renault part, we use various suppliers for the sub-internals but we build the alternators so we at Renault are responsible for the integrity of the part.

107SS2009

September 21, 2012 8:36 AM

Is Taipan still in bed? If so certainly a late starter! Here is something for him to reed re starter motors and starting means in F1, Apart from the starting handle remote (external/portable) air/hydraulic and battery operated starters were used even in the early years of F1 when they didn't have to use a battery because magnetos were used to fire the plugs. In the 70's F1 went from electric (onboard battery starting motors) to air starters (gave around 6 starts). In the late 70's Chapman tried an automated clutch activated by air pressure and operated by a push button on the gear shift lever, (push the button, shift the gear, release the button), the pneumatic clutch system was pressurized by spinning the starter motor in reverse, when it turned one way it cranked the engine, when turned the other way it powered a compressor/pump.

107SS2009

September 21, 2012 9:01 AM

Thanks to the FIA rules/regulations regarding the freeze on engine development any differences in the power output of the four engines in use in F1 is not a factor in winning races for a team anymore, the very small (as talked about in F1 circles) power output differences (of a more powerful engine) will certainly have to carry the extra weight of the fuel for a race distance as any power output advantage means more fuel burned.

richard

September 21, 2012 10:20 AM

sunny. snakes like the heat, so he is probably just waiting for the day to heat up. dont forget, he nests in the south of england!

re the starter question, your comments tie up with what i thought, 60 and 70 used battery starters. but i liked your comment about the starting handle. wouldnt it be great to see a driver jump out of his stalled car , retrieve a handle and then have to wind the car up?
now, isnt that thought for bernie, to enliven racing and pit stops?????

107SS2009

September 21, 2012 11:04 AM

Richard, re the starting handle, unless somebody comes up with more up to date information I believe that the 2CV was the last car sold in the UK in the 1990 with a starting handle as standard equipment.

rob01

September 21, 2012 12:23 PM
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Sunny.. You need to read further on the altenator. A magneti rep has answered questions on their alternator. Vettel is also suggesting to drop them as a supplier. But I understand your confusion as this is Red Bunk pointing fingers.

richard

September 21, 2012 1:21 PM

rob. the alternator is different to that on your ford. it is an integral part of the engine and is supplied and then fitted with internal circuitry. THAT is the part supplied by mm, and unfortunately it is currently unable to cope with the heat . yes, rbr could well use a different supplier of internals, to that supplied by renault. but as i said in earlier post, it is NOT a problem that is peculiar to rbr, as you seem to be keem to imply!

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