F1 » Button predicts two-way fight

Jenson Button thinks the F1 title fight is between Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel

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September 27, 2012 11:34 PM

Colon, Massa is a team player, accepted the teams backing when he was going for the WDC, gives the team his backing when his team mate is going for the WDC.

He is a team player.

Clone - Unregistered

September 27, 2012 11:41 PM

Massa? Seriously? Massa?

I was talking about F1 drivers with any "serious level of determination" and Massa is the exception you came up with?


September 27, 2012 11:52 PM

He pushed Lulu to the last lap in 2008 and he was in an inferior car. Are you saying Lulu's greatest moment was beating a driver who lacked a serious level of determination who drove a weaker car?

Mark _

September 27, 2012 11:54 PM

While Massa may be a team player he sure made it obvious that he was pulling aside for a faster driver. His method almost got the team in trouble. Now for a real team player look at Heikki during their McLaren days. He should write a manual on how to pull aside without attracting any attention.

Clone - Unregistered

September 28, 2012 12:35 AM

Ah we get to the truth. As usual...your discussion is driven by you infatuation with Hamilton.

To answer your questions:

1) No I don't consider that Hamilton's greatest moment. That was his rookie year when he destroyed Alonso in the same machinery
2) Apart from your obvious bias, why do you think the McLaren was the much faster car? Did you happen to see where Hamilton's team mate came in the championship?
3) You are confusing 2008 with the present. The 2008 Massa was a completely different driver. Since the arrival of Alonso to Ferrari, Massa seems to have given up. His performances have only picked up recently because his seat is under threat. He has shown what he can do, but he hasn't been doing this for the last 3 years. Hardly the indication of someone determined. In 2008, I'm not so sure Massa would have buckled as quickly to team orders as he has done recently.

Mark _

September 28, 2012 1:16 AM

Tai - no doubt that the team communication was pretty telling but the way that Massa pulled over was reminiscent of Rubens giving Michael the win in Austria. Compare that to Heikki going wide on a curve in Hockenheim and it shows who the better actor is. Heikki didn't always get right though. At Magny Cours he let Lewis by before they were even close to the braking zone.


September 28, 2012 4:12 AM

Traqqs, it might comes true as well as not, but remember that what you read was in the British media who interpreted what Ross Brawn said (the latest)in a certain direction, now there are SOME who HEARED/READ something they would like to hear so are now sure of whats going to happen but in no time there will be the other SOME that as soon as they hear something they would like to hear they will come out swearing it will happen.

mk - Unregistered

September 28, 2012 4:48 AM


He didn't destroy Alonso in the same machinery at all, if you look at the records you'll see they drew on points actually. And we all know how much Ron Dennis set things up to suit Hamilton.

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