F1 » Ecclestone calls for scrap on 2014 engines

Bernie Ecclestone calls on F1 to drop its planned engine change for 2014

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cknopp - Unregistered

October 01, 2012 10:27 PM

It doesnt matter... In ten years, they will be running all electric anyways...

Imagine that! Instant, ridiculous amounts of torque, and you can hear the tyres as they work! No more need for ear plugs, no more screaming to be heard by the person sitting next to you.

THAT is an enjoyable atmosphere, and Bernie will be cold and buried, and no longer able to meddle in the advancement of the pinnacle of motorsport.

And to those that vehemently claim to quit watching F1 over engine changes. I call horsesh1t. As long as your favorite drivers are being paid outrageous money to drive the most advanced prototypes on the planet, you will watch. You always will, just ask Bernie.


October 01, 2012 10:51 PM

My opinion is that Todt has asked for extra funds from BE so he can move the fia into new headquaters so who makes the rules and who has the purse strings . I thought the turbos were ok when they were last in F1

Scott - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 12:45 AM

Richard what planet am I from sorry are aliens not allowed an opinion ! The point I made on the engine was just a suggestion the main point of the post being things aren't always obvious when bernie is concerned. Having said that I think ur argument holds little merit. We are talking about a 1.6 litre engine with advanced engine recovery not really Ferrari usual area of expertise (maybe fiat helped whoops). Its not just power the key is in the delivery, just look at the problems the merc cars have had with the tires plus all the problems Renault have had with alternator and kers, and how long have they been running this engine spec. Anyhow back to my point bernie makes outlandish suggestions so when the changes he actually wants look ok in comparison it's a show a he is the ringmaster...

cknopp - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 1:46 AM

For the ones that disagree...

Autos will not run on fossil fuels forever. Especially with the push towards efficiency, they will eventually be all electric. I am rather sure that if the scientists developed a battery that had a higher energy density than gasoline, that they would already be all electric.

In every single way that you slice it, the noise and noxious fumes of Formula 1 are on borrowed time.

RTP10R - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 5:10 AM

Why is it that engine suppliers/Manufacturers can't decide on there own configuration? and we have a 2.4 Litre limit on naturally aspirated engines, 1.4 Litre on Turbo's.

I would love to see some inovation back in Formula 1, teams doing things differently, not all following the lead of the team with the best pre season test times.
I know everyone will say that it is purely a money saving excersise. There is a fine line though between saving money and racing the best prototypes around.

race_fan1 - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 6:46 AM

All this talk about switching to V6T's to be more "green" is bullsh*t. An F1 car can be run for a maximum of approx 6.5 hours on any given race weekend. I'm guessing a realistic number to be closer to 4.5-5 hours. The amount of fuel used in the car is negligible in comparison to the all the trucks and support vehicles a team uses in transporting a team from race to race.

For once BE has said something that I really agree with. Scrap the V6T's and let's get on with proper racing.

19K rpm - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 7:45 AM

The sounds of F1 V8 engines have been a unique and substantial aspect of the F1 spectacle which will be lost.The FIA has killed F1 under their pseudo green banner. F1 was a racing motorsport until JT and FIA converted it into a boring, predictable experiment.
Their mission to regulate racing and innovation out of F1 will be completed in 2014, with their ridiculous sounding V6s (read: sounding like runaway lawn-mowers) rip F1. Too little, too late Bernie.


October 02, 2012 8:00 AM

Well this is confusing... The new engine program has already progressed so far down the line, yet now Bernie wants to scrap or postpone it? Surely he'd realize this move would upset a great many, important people. How many millions have already been spent on the R&D, manufacturing and testing? Does Bernie WANT to get rid of yet another engine manufacturer? If I was in charge of, say, Renault or Mercedes' engine works and I read something like this, I might just be inclined to make a certain phone call to a certain head of a certain department and utter the following words: "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING."


October 02, 2012 8:58 AM

19k. the "sound" of v8s in f1 is unique?

how long have you followed f1 or any motorsport. until the ford dfv, and even during its reign, there were other engine configurations, with most true afficianados saying that the v/flat 12s or v16 were the most memorable. and these were screamers. ford financed v8 as it was their forte in the states. eventually, courtesy of renault, we got the 4 and 6 turbos, and again many love the high pitched howl of these.
going back to v6 (courtesy of ferrari, fia/bernie wanted v4) heralds a new era of sound.
i admit i have never heard a runaway v6 turbo lawnmower, but have you heard the v6 turbo f1 engine?

i doubt it, but if you enjoy f1, then you will accept it and learn to live with it. otherwise, you will just have to turn down the sound on your tv.

dks11000 - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 2:09 PM

this is BS... motogps are only 1 liters, but they are as loud if not louder than Formula one...

BTW. i attended The Baltimore indy 500 race last month ... they were incredibly loud the whole city was shaking... they are turbo charged V6 2.2L

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