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Jenson Button handed a five place grid penalty for a gearbox change ahead of Suzuka

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October 02, 2012 10:48 AM

@ JD 002

Totally agree, it unfair on the driver, constructors points or a fine would force the teams to them more reliable although they are pretty amazing pieces of kit.


October 02, 2012 11:07 AM

DAMN! Hate these stupid penalties, I thought Button could have won in Suzuka, well maybe we'll get a fight through the field from him.

I would rather see the team get a reprimand or take away 5 constructors points. Why penalise the driver?

memory loss - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 11:10 AM

A fine wouldn't work, teams would just start soaking those up and the whole "cost saving" thing would become redundant. Constructors point deduction wouldn't really work either, the lower tier teams would probably struggle to get off 0 points (depending on how many points they deduct). It would have to be a high points deduction to have an impact on the top teams, but that would kill the lower teams ability to accumulate points. Grid penalty, as harsh as it is, is the only way of doing it as far as i can tell.

Also, Crash, stirring comment? Really? If that's the case can you please apply that level of moderation to other comments? It would make this site a much better place to have discussions.

memory loss - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 11:14 AM

"I agree, it is an irritating penalty for the fans of the driver, seeing a technical issue result in them being shuffled down the order."

I see what you're saying, but to some extent that's like saying "it's not fair that a mechanical failure causes a driver to DNF". It's the teams job to provide the driver with a fast and reliable car. If it meets those requirements they wouldn't get a penalty in the first place.

JD 002

October 02, 2012 11:39 AM

@ memory loss

I think a mechanical DNF which occurs during a race is a completely different issue. We are talking about an issue that has been discovered before the race and therefore it is a predetermined penalty imposed on a driver who hasn't really done anything.

JD 002

October 02, 2012 11:39 AM
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I do agree with the fact that a constructors championship points penalty may effect the lower teams, in which I would suggest it be optional- take the constructors penalty or grid place penalty. This solution is certain to cause a rift though... however if you are driving for a lower team where constructor points are deemed important perhaps the driver should be prepared to accept the grid penalty?

Manxie - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 12:27 PM

not sure why some of you are dissing JB for this race. Last year he was quickest of all in all 3 FP sessions, quickest in quali too except he got beaten by SV on last lap only to go an WIN the race.

My guess will be he qualifies top three and has to move within the top 10.

Unfortunately this rule counts for every driver but JB will cope.

Mr Cynical - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 12:29 PM

How about this then?

The team have a 5 place penalty for changing a gearbox.

They qualify, say JB qualifies 2nd.

He finishes the race in second and gets the driver points for that however as far as the team points are concerned it's added ie 2 + 5 = 7th position as far as the constructors points?

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