F1 » JYS: Vettel no F1 great

Sir Jackie Stewart believes that Sebastian Vettel needs to prove himself away from Adrian Newey-designed cars before he can be called an F1 'great', but suggests the German would be mad to go to Ferrari just now....

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tony - Unregistered

October 18, 2012 1:28 PM

Looks like we are forgetting with respect Fi drivers
that shocked the motorsport in the very early years
when drivers drove hard to handle and powerful Audis
and Mercs and others NO Electronics Hybrid downforce
quick gear changes aerodynamics keyboard steering
wheels with to name it car tuning buttons moving flaps
dragster slicks stonewall type brakes etc etc.

It was done with down to earth motors/chassis that the
people at the tracks loved to see See who Fangio Ascari Nuvolari for a start. Fangio did it at late age wih
hard to imagine conditions of car/track. Yes those were the years and from one make to another!!! try that SV.

Jasper - Unregistered

October 18, 2012 1:28 PM

Of the current drivers, only Alonso has 'so far' proven (for many years) that he has what it takes to possibly earn the title "great" in the future. Vettel has so far only won in a great car(the same goes for Hamilton).

I hate it when people say Alonso won it in an inferior car, we are talking about the same Benatton that won back to back construction title, does it occur to people that the new rules then favoured those who are not on bridegstone tyres? OK if Alonso did it in an inferior car, then why cant he do it in a superior car like the McLaren and Ferrari

F1 fan in the US - Unregistered

October 18, 2012 1:52 PM

Good God, when will JYS learn to keep quiet. He was a wonderful driver in his day, but his continual spouting off on issues he should keep his nose out of are tarnishing his image.

He's become just another hanger-on who's craving attention.


October 18, 2012 2:17 PM
Last Edited 537 days ago

First, and I mean no offence what so ever, it is Benetton, not Benatton. (Just noticed that you wrote it before as well and thought maybe you have misread their name, or remember wrong).

I am not saying it because he won necessarily. It was the way he constantly outperformed those with the same or similar equipment to their disposal. But then, this is just my interpretation(or impression) of it, I am after all just another 'armchair-driver'. Just as we would most probably order different burgers at McDonald's, we are bound to pick up on, like and dislike different things through our TV-Screen too.

Regarding Ferrari, I think a huge majority would agree that it has been far from the level of McLaren and Red Bull the last few years. Well most of the time. Overall.


October 18, 2012 2:18 PM


You also mention his McLaren year, It didn't work great for him but it wasn't really bad either. But he is human, not perfect, learning all the time, and evolving(is that the right word?). You go through ups and downs, such is it for all of us.

I am sorry that I forgot to include in my previous post, that it was only MY opinion, and not intended to sound like a fact.

Have a good day and best of luck to whoever is Your favorite(s) .)

Jim Clausen

October 18, 2012 2:18 PM

I think there's a symbiotic relationship between great cars(designers) and great drivers. They inspire one another. Teams are a different matter. The best ones collect the best talent available, whether it's the car driver or transport driver. The best teams also raise the most money. Ron Dennis understood that raising money was part of the competition. I don't think Frank Williams had that understanding to the degree that Dennis has.

Kyunoske - Unregistered

October 18, 2012 4:10 PM

Almost every F1 driver in the modern era that won the WDC is because they had the best car/team combo.

I forgot who said it but put a great driver in a great car and he wins. Put a great driver in an average car and his results will be average with a few good results.

Vettel would be neck in neck with Alonso if not slightly ahead with better qualifyng and all things being equal at Ferrari.

In terms of complete teams RBR 1st, Ferrari 2nd, Mclaren 3rd (reliability and pit stop issues).

Jackie Stewart is of the old guard like who in any sport want to still feel relevant. He raced in a different time and he is no Vettel.

oldie - Unregistered

October 18, 2012 6:22 PM
Last Edited 1047 days ago

Groan. Here he goes again. Personally I don't care whether Vettel's one of the "F1 greats", or not, however you chose to define it. Yeah, I know about his championships and his contributions to F1 safety.

EDIT by CRASH.NET! Insults removed.

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