F1 » Vettel sent to back of the grid in Abu Dhabi


In a major twist to the world championship battle, Sebastian Vettel has had his qualifying times deleted and will now start from the pit lane in the 2012 F1 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

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9th Gear - Unregistered

November 03, 2012 11:28 PM

RBR is great especially only with Newey, without him they are nothing. (Just the Greatness of 1 man) suppose to be a team sport. I did like Seb until he got more cocky than MS was ever was. They are what they are a drink company!

pcxmac - Unregistered

November 03, 2012 11:35 PM

throwing fuel down the exhaust creates back pressure which can be used to help change the characteristic of the motor. I heard Vettel's motor modulating like a supergt car at one corner on Friday, it was pretty interesting. Running lean on fuel typically creates a hotter motor because the combustion is a more pure stoichiometric reaction with little left over to absorb the heat byproduct.

Running turbos is a prime example of the dangers of running to lean, with all the wasted heat hanging around the motor/exhaust manifold. The manufacturers will end up needing to waste more fuel on keeping the motors cooler or spending a lot more on components that are properly prepared for extreme temperatures to ward of mechanical failure. Which will cost money anyways.

Make F1 more cost effective by allowing refueling, and not requiring teams to change their formula.

Objective

November 03, 2012 11:55 PM

I may have misunderstood the article but it appeared to me that the car had sufficient fuel however the fuel cell wasn't disgorging it causing the engine to run lean and possibly cause damage. Renault advised Vettel to stop to avoid damage. The reason they couldn't get enough fuel for analysis was because the fuel release wasn't working.

To me there is a difference between under-fueling a car and a problem extracting sufficient fuel because of a malfunction.

mrfill

November 04, 2012 12:05 AM

That seems to be the reason for stopping the car and was accepted by the stewards. However, they also checked for fuel level and it was found to be insufficient. This may or may not be as a result of the fuel feed problem. It matters not. The rules state there has to be a certain amount at least, and there wasn't. The cars do run with minimum fuel, but that is not mandatory and it is the teams who are wholly responsible for the amount of fuel loaded.

107SS2009

November 04, 2012 12:35 AM

Some notes and observations, it didn't took long for some to get to know what Webber meant by saying “we have still a bit of friendly fire coming on” he know the answer to Vettel having to stop on track and it sounded good to him, didn't I said “and got lambasted” that the two drivers on the grid most effected by Vettel's success are Webber being his team mate and Lulu who is believed by some to have supposedly been the second coming to God's green earth.

107SS2009

November 04, 2012 1:18 AM

I don't believe that RBR were cheating by short fuelling Vettel, something which hasn't been (and will not be) disclosed has went wrong but it wasn't short fuelling the car, this because the FIA accepted the case as a force majeure after seeing the telemetry, but force majeure or not the penalty couldn't have been avoided because since Canada when Lulu was short fuelled by miscalculation (and not cheating as one litre of fuel was picked up from the car) the rules has been re written.

107SS2009

November 04, 2012 1:35 AM

Fuel rigs, fuel chilling, fuelling the cars and all that.
Fuel rigs are supplied to the teams by the FIA.
The fuel is chilled in the fuel rig, it is chilled to ten degrees C bellow ambient (rules).
Fuel shrinks in volume when it is chilled enabling more of it to be contained within each litre, and it (the chilling) got nothing t do with engine power.
Fuel rigs fuel the car with high precision (amount of fuel).

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