F1 » Alonso dependent on others to win title, says Minardi

Giancarlo Minardi: Red Bull has a better car, but, as far as reliability and team management are concerned, it is second to Ferrari

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Jose - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 3:00 PM

I see Minardi made mention of the roll played by the safety
car getting vettel to the podium. Vettel had the speed. Lady
Luck was smiling, the 'One Finger' just trounced the field.
Methinks he has the WDC bagged if he can keep flying.
For some reason that Alonzo guy just keeps hanging around.


BK-201 - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 3:20 PM

The luckiest person in AbD, by a country mile, was Alonso. If Vettel had started third he'd have cruised to victory and Alonso would currently be down 20 points instead of just 10. For some reason Alonso's remarkable luck never gets mentioned.

homeheroe - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 3:29 PM

i cant stand alonso. they say schumacher was arrogant.. well they havent met alonso... i predictted when he was anounced for ferrari that, if ever, it would take him a long time winning a WDC. he is only there because of banker botin. and what ferrari is doing to massa is so embarrassing...

i wish he lieves ferrari empty handed when his time comes. he doesn't deserve better. he thinks he has special rights because of his name. and because botin pays his bills... but, no. he has not.

BK-201 - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:20 PM

"Vettel is lucky Adrian Newey works for Red Bull"

Yeah, just imagine if Newey worked for McLaren ... oh, that's right, he used to before he moved to Red Bull. Remind me again how many Championships the Newey/McLaren/Raikkonen team collected? It must have been half-a-dozen or so, right?

Terminator - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:40 PM


The reason why Newey/McLaren did not work out was because Todt/Brawn/Byrne/Schumacher/Ferrari was at its crushing peak. They have been the one and only one comibnation that was able to comprehensively beat Newey.

Adrian Newey is the greatest designer of all time, and he has an incredible success rate, even with the 5-6 years that he was beaten. So yes, Vettel does have a bit of luck that Newey is on his side.

BK-201 - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:51 PM

Looks to me like Newey is lucky that he has Vettel driving his cars and making him kook good. In the last dozen years only one driver has done impressive things in a Newey car, and that's Vettel. That evidence suggests that it's the driver, not the car. Notice that the Newey designed Red Bull's (he moved to Red Bull at the start of 2006) looked really pathetic for several years - right up until the time Vettel started driving them.

The upturn in fortune for RB did not start with Newey. It started with Vettel.

"The reason why Newey/McLaren did not work out was because Todt/Brawn/Byrne/Schumacher/Ferrari was at its crushing peak"

So Newey is the best designer, except for those times he isn't?

BK-201 - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 5:44 PM

Let's have a look at previous Newey championship winning cars.

The 1992 Williams, driven by Mansell.
The 1993 Williams, driven by Prost.
The 1996 Williams, driven by Hill.
The 1997 Williams, driven by Villeneuve.
The 1998 McLaren, driven by Hakkinen.

Look's to me like Newey has enjoyed much better than average drivers in his cars. Or to put that another way, I don't recall hearing a lot of people going on endlessly about how lucky Mansell was to drive a Newey car, or how lucky Prost was to drive a Newey car.

That's the nature of F1 - the best teams, the best designers, and the best drivers all tend to find one another.

The cars listed above were all far, FAR more dominant than the recent RB's. That's because of rule changes explicitly designed to make all the cars closer to one another in performance.

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