F1 » POLL: Did Ferrari make the right call?


Were Ferrari right to hand Felipe Massa a five-place grid penalty in Texas?

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Makrus - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 4:39 AM

I voted yes.
But only in the spirit that is f1(I'm sure it happens in other forms of racing but f1 is what we are talking about). I would love it to be build a car and race the wheels off it, who ever is quicker gets the points. As far as the team thing goes team mates should be used to share track and set up info and work for a constructors title. Once the red lights go out its every man for himself. F1 is not like this, it has never been like this and team orders happen all the time, it's just this one is a lot more clever and original. If your so annoyed with Ferrari for doing this you should probably watch another sport as it happens at this time of the year nearly ever year.

Makrus - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 4:49 AM

@deeznuts if other teams wanted massa they would have made a pass at him.
If massa was in front of alonso on points and had a shot at the title they would have done the same thing but to alonso. Fact is alonso is up for a title shot still (although very very unlikely) so massa has to do the team thing.. Again. It's ok though he still gets to fly around the world driving a formula one car at world class tracks and the go home and cry himself to sleep using 100 dollar bills as tissues.

Googolplex

November 20, 2012 5:40 AM
Last Edited 758 days ago

One thing seems reasonably clear, when you are in the same team one expects collaboration and mutual assistance to achieve the team's goals. After all, there would be no sense in calling them a 'team' if that were not the case.

However, what if RBR asked STR to do it, or Ferrari asked Sauber to do it? Most people remember Petrov in the Renault holding up Alonso in 2010, and there was little doubt he was told by Renault they wanted him to do everything possible to hold Alonso at bay, the inference being to make sure RBR (which also had a Renault engine) won the 2010 WDC.

Malin - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 7:30 AM

Whilst it was perfectly legal, and it was in reality their only option to keep the championship alive, It wasn't very sporting. But I guess racing isn't fair.

richard

November 20, 2012 8:55 AM

googol. i have seen some conspiracy theories, but yours??????? petrov never blocked alonso, it was just that alonso could not make a pass. it was before the days of drs, which was introduced to create artificial passes, as happened on sunday!

the simple fact is that ferrari took their eye off the ball and suffered as a result. anyway, what is past, is past, and there is little point dwelling on it.

Googolplex

November 20, 2012 1:41 PM
Last Edited 758 days ago

Richard,

I didn't say Petrov blocked Alonso, but you have to ask yourself why Petrov drove like his life depended on it that day rather than simply let Alonso through, given that he and his team knew Alonso was driving for the championship.

ferrari forever - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 3:27 PM

Googolplex:Because it is a race.Petrov is paid so to drive like that.It helps his case that he held up some driver who was likely to win the championship that year.You know show his skill off to the other teams.

He was actually helped by the fact that alonso was on a title fight.Alonso on that day had to back off from several attempts because he couldnt risk a bad move at any cost whereas petrov had nothing to lose.

If the stakes werent so high,probably alonso could have overtaken him in a situation like that.

ferrari forever - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 3:27 PM

Googolplex:Because it is a race.Petrov is paid so to drive like that.It helps his case that he held up some driver who was likely to win the championship that year.You know show his skill off to the other teams.

He was actually helped by the fact that alonso was on a title fight.Alonso on that day had to back off from several attempts because he couldnt risk a bad move at any cost whereas petrov had nothing to lose.

If the stakes werent so high,probably alonso could have overtaken him in a situation like that.

Mark _

November 20, 2012 3:45 PM

Just like with Webber it is better to be the 2nd driver in a top team than it is to be the 1st driver in a mid-field team. The thing is you have to be ready to step up if the opportunity presents itself. Some drivers may actually prefer the supporting role rather than all of the pressure that comes with being a team leader.

Tony - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 4:07 PM

I don't see what ppl don't get. F1 has always been about the team best maximize the rule book or find a loop hole in deloping the best car. Was it fair that Massa had to take one for the team. No one wants that but its a team and is signed up for it and Alonso would do the same if roles were reversed. FIA said if u have a gear box change u take a grid penelty and the got punished end of story. Seeing how thing played out. I got my moneys worth of F1 this season.best season ever

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