F1 » Red Bull success justifies Renault call

Renault was right to stay in F1 as an engine supplier according to president Carlos Ghosn after Red Bull's latest title success

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Nanbawan - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 9:29 PM

As much as I regret not having a fully named official Renault team (and their current racing colours yellow, white and anthracite grey would look sweet) on the grid. I must admit that their policy indeed seems to be the good one.


November 20, 2012 9:34 PM

Just in case Eddie's wife lets go of him, known more for his expertise in gas flow then for engine manufacture and the first to use a narrow valve angle and so a compact combustion chamber which later was wrongly attributed to Cosworth Harry Weslake had the services of BRM designer Frank Aubrey Woods who was the link to Gurney, AAR contracted with Weslake for six engines, the v12 had a bore of 72.8mm and a stroke 60mm for 2997cc, when tested it yielded 264hp at 9500rpm vastly short of expectations to Dan Gurney's utter dismay.


November 20, 2012 9:45 PM


(merc)merc. force india. mclaren

(ferrari) ferrari. str. sauber.

(renault) lotus, rbr, caterham, williams

rumours that fi and str are to change to renault power, so half the grid could be powered by renault.


November 20, 2012 9:59 PM

sunny. it will be interesting to see what way the cookie crumbles. but interesting to see that mercs training team are ditching the merc engine. maybe merc want to distance themselves from mallya, who appears to be in some sort of financial trouble?

Nanbawan - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 10:12 PM

@ 107SS2009, this is not what Renault engineers say and they've been quite successful, haven't they ?

To be more precise, top end power is indeed very important but it's not their absolute goal to have the biggest figure on that parameter alone. Of course, whenever they can improve on this department, they do it.

Nanbawan - Unregistered

November 20, 2012 10:16 PM


Oops there was a very important word missing on my earlier comment...

"is there another manufacturer to have with three different outfit in a season. "

If only I had reread myself carefully... What I wanted to write was :

is there another manufacturer to have WON with three different outfits in a season ?

Ptolomy - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 9:56 AM

Of course it was a figure of speech when I said Renault invented EVERY innovation in F1 engine technology that we see in todays cars.
But its not far from the truth! Turbocharging was intoduced by Renault. Turbos later DOMINATED the sport. Renault introduced hydraulic valves to the sport. And more importantly Renault invented the pneumatic vale return. Pneumatic valves are the primary reason we saw engines eclipsing 20,000 RPM a few years ago before a rev limit was imposed. Those crazy RPM are what enabled the nearly 1000 hp 3-Liter V10's. Imagine what is possible today without the limitations imposed. Renault introduced a vastly disproportionate amount of new engine technology in the last 35 years!

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