F1 » Forget NASCAR, football could move 2013 USGP


The University of Texas has called for a change of date for the 2013 US Grand Prix as it conflicts with one of its biggest college football games.

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porcupine - Unregistered

November 23, 2012 12:46 AM

Yes. This is FOOTBALL! A global sport must march to the tune of FOOTBALL. Just ask Penn State. You know, the place where child molestation, sexual abuse, and child rape were all brushed aside so that JOE PATERNO could finish out his career with the most Division One wins ever! So F1, lube up for the Penn State treatment Austin style!

mrfill

November 23, 2012 12:48 AM

The attendance figures are not that important, neither are the people who understand F1. The only thing that matters to Bernie et al is the TV audience because big audiences produce top advertising rates which guarantees good coverage. If this race increases viewing figures dramatically it will be considered a success. Whether it will be sufficient to keep those viewers for European/Middle Eastern/Asian races is another matter. Sunday morning at 8am for European, 5am for Mid East and Asian races at midnight test the hardiest fan, let alone the slightly interested viewer.
This probably explains why F1 has never been especially popular in the US. Showing a delayed race leads to frustration as BBC viewers have found this year as the result can be difficult to avoid during the delay.

mrfill

November 23, 2012 3:40 AM

I don't believe he does and neither does he share the advertising revenue from the billboards around the track. This is probably why tracks such as Korea are having financial problems ($36m loss this year alone), why ticket prices are so high and why Bernie is so rich. The tracks get the revenue from the tickets but then also have to pay huge fees to stage the event - many GPs have some kind of government support. If numbers are down and revenue is down and the government won't cough up more cash, then the venue starves. The tracks have been talking about joining together to start twisting Bernie's arm en masse but until they do, they are at the mercy of the current system. The teams and BE do very nicely out the tv revenues and neither seem inclined to change that. A bit short-sighted really.

GPone - Unregistered

November 23, 2012 5:18 AM

Bernie's billion dollar circus with 300milllion weekly audience vs national university football match. Who do you think going to budge? Millionaire spectators spending avg $10'000 vs family outing that spends $500 on food and accommodations? Yeah austin businesses love F1 more I bet.

JJ - Unregistered

November 23, 2012 6:07 AM

So as some one who went to University of Texas (UT not UOT) this causes quite a conflict. American football is a religion in the US, esp Texas. While I am a F1 fan, I do not see F1 really winning this battle. To give some idea in terms of money spent, these games rival F1 with ease. Ticket to a big rival game can easily go into the thousands. Also UT has a huge loyal fan base already established for decades that F1 will have a hard time to compete against. People in the states are loyal to their university is like someone who is a life long supporter to Manchester United, or Barcelona.

@GPone - you are quite wrong. College football in the US is a billion $ business that easily rivals F1. Also F1 is a one time event. UT games happen every week from the months of August to December. Loyal customers bring back lots of repeat business that will easily add up more than a single F1 weekend. The local business know who is contributing to the profits more and will not want to alie

Floyd - Unregistered

November 23, 2012 10:16 AM

Thank you jacquester for thoughts, just replying to clarify some things.I don't glasses as I've already been to specsavers (LOL). As I said before, I've been a lifelong F1 fan, I'm also a fan of most motorsport including, Nascar, World Touring car, British Touring car, Moto GP, World Superbikes, British Superbikes. IMHO, F1 has in the last couple of years become a little bit boring, you know who are going to be on the podium, just need to sort the order. This something that you can't say about for example Nascar. F1 is dominated by 3 teams and 4 drivers, this needs to be sorted. With the exception of Moto GP (which suffers the same problem as F1)motorcycle racing is exciting to watch as the winner is not pre-ordained. For me, watching the final race of the Nascar championship live, was a no-brainer (hard, close racing with plenty of overtakes and multiple pit strategies) when both events were on tv at the same time. The US organisers messed up scheduling the F1 race when the did, beca

Fozly

November 23, 2012 11:32 AM

People are naive to think F1 in the US should be challenging established sports such as college football. They are trying to grow F1 and win favour from pretty much the buttom rung.

College football is like religion to these people where as F1 is in its infancy putting them head to head on the local calendar could be perceived as brazen and arrogant.

andrew2k

November 23, 2012 3:29 PM

F1 problem in reality is not NASCAR as there are room accomodate both, but rather its competing with the more mainstream sporting events e.g. NBA, NFL, College football and basketball. Its the same deal with MotoGP here in america...despite having a double header/back to back races, MotoGP never really made a blip in the american media.

F1Fan - Unregistered

November 24, 2012 1:14 AM

Adding on to the things some have said...
F1 should try and market itself as a different form of racing to US audiences. I mean, Some Americans still thinks Nascar or Indycar is equivalent or superior to an F1 car base on their top speeds !
I was watching the FOTA forum in Austin and Sam Michael when talking about F1 technology, describe an F1 car in every circuit as a new prototype. That is a powerful statement and should be the way F1 markets itself to US audiences.

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