F1 » Karthikeyan: I was following orders


Narain Karthikeyan has said that he is growing tired of Sebastian Vettel pointing the finger of blame whenever he loses a race.

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cknopp - Unregistered

November 22, 2012 8:13 PM

This is what happens when you allow cars that are 8 seconds off the pace in the same race as the real contenders...

Should make it the 104% rule, then we can have a race where the only time someone gets lapped is if they have a nose change.

OR even better, get rid of the blue flags and if you are lapped, you must park it. I support a point system where the leader gets a point for every car he laps and forces out of the race. Talk about an incentive to go fast and eat up the backmarkers...

But F1 is all pansy, and crybaby centric. The thought of PvP racing has no place here, as the coddlers would lose their favorite whining podium.

indianapolis2007

November 22, 2012 8:33 PM
Last Edited 607 days ago

why am i not surprised that it is only Vettel's fanboy defending him.

karthikeyan said he was following the rules set by a FIA representative and as there have been no action taken by the FIA/stewards against the chap so i cant even see why there is even a debate on this subject.

richard

November 22, 2012 8:54 PM

indycar. why am i not surprised that you choose to attack. you no full well that i am in no way a fanboy. i comment as i see.

i think that your own specific fanboyism for lulu blinds you to any other driver, particularly one who has done what your lulu has not done.

i am not saying that vettel was right or wrong, what i am saying that he WAS held up by nk, and nobody disputes that. the lap charts show what happened. i believe that you were one of the first to moan about vettel saying something about lulu, something that just did not happen.

i would guarantee that had vettel passed nk before the corners, and lulu then held up, you would have been the first to vent your anger at nk, for spoiling an "epic" drive. maybe you are a little too nationalistic?

Locks46+91+38&35

November 22, 2012 9:07 PM
Last Edited 607 days ago

@richard
You should check things more carefully before you start been critical of others . Karthikeyan has stated that what he did was follow instructions that were given to all drivers during the Drivers Briefing . But it seems that Vettel must of been on his mobile phone or something as he seems to be unaware of such a briefing . The instructions were given by Charlie Whiting explaining what drivers should do in certain parts of the track if a faster driver comes up behind them due to the dirty side and also the nature of certain sections of the track . He simply followed instructions .When my son was racing Go Karts they would be penalised for not been aware of instructions given in a briefing . Would of been interesting to see what would of happened if there had been an accident due to an overtake attempt as Vettel would of been at fault .

Locks46+91+38&35

November 22, 2012 9:13 PM
Last Edited 607 days ago

It is so childish to hear or see grown ups using that expression FANBOY or FANGIRL . Yes we were all including myself blaming Narain for holding up Vettel till he got fed up of taking all the flack and told us exactly what the situation was . It will be interesting to see if Vettel is man enough to apologise .

richard

November 22, 2012 9:23 PM

locks. of course i do not know exactly what was said at the briefing, and neither does anyone else here. but that is not the issue.
horner and vettel both said that seb was held up by nk. that is pure fact. neither said that nk should have moved over, just that the delay resulted in a pass by lulu.
if you or indycar can prove otherwise, then i would stand to be corrected. but there is not a single site that has claimed that seb was not held up

Locks46+91+38&35

November 22, 2012 9:44 PM
Last Edited 607 days ago

@richard ! Yes point taken . But what i was getting at is that all the drivers knew what the procedure was to be at that part of the track and you can't suddenly make a back of the grid car go faster . Vettel knew or should of known the situation and just cursed his bad luck . Not react the way he did . Without these pay to race you would have about ten cars on the grid and F1 would be nowhere . By the way richard no one has come out and said Narain was wrong in what he said .

JohnO - Unregistered

November 22, 2012 10:27 PM

People really need to get on grip on their emotions. Vettel complained on the radio about Karthikeyan holding him up. That's it. I'm not sure why some people are whinging about this.

If Vettel had pulled a Senna and punched Karthikeyan in the face after the race, THEN there would be grounds for complaint. If Vettel pulls a Senna in Brazil and crashes into Alonso, THEN there will be grounds for complaint. The Hamilton fans, of all people, should resist attacking a driver on flimsy or fabricated grounds.

silent observer - Unregistered

November 22, 2012 10:35 PM

Indy said it all in his post. And I hear what Locks is saying. The trouble with richard's position (and Vettel/Horner's by default) is the insinuation inherent in their analysis. There is an unspoken insinuation that Narain was at fault for Vettel not winning the race. They are 'implying' it was Narain's fault, but just not coming out and saying so in a direct way. Call it their frustration, analysis or whatever you want, but they are 'implying' it was Narain's fault, using words like 'Vettel was held up'...as if it was intentional on Narain's part.

And there lies the disingenuous nature of their argument - and why some are calling richard a fanboy.

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