F1 » Webber: I don’t plan to be in a supporting role

Mark Webber vows to fight for the 2013 F1 title and not simply support Sebastian Vettel

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November 30, 2012 9:58 PM

freejack. very possible, but it is not just his starts that are suspect. even though he loses a few places at the start, he just cannot make up these places. now the car is fast enough, witness how seb is able to come from the back when neccessary, even with a badly damaged and reduced power car. mark just does not seem able to respond to a difficult situation. and remember his race at austin, where he made some mad attempts to pass, and also blocked his recovering teammate.
and heres another question for you. when he is being interviewed, why does he never look at the camera or the reporter? his eyes are always focused at something distant. to me, that looks like a person who is uncomfortable with his position.

GPone - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 2:07 AM

As much as I like webbo as a person, if he is good enough, he wouldve been at least 2nd in the championship more that once. He might not get a car that's as good as vettel but its better than the other 20 cars on the grid with him on any given sunday.

Jim Clausen

December 01, 2012 2:12 AM

Been hearing the same from 2nd best of the team drivers forever. I guess it's the competitive instinct. Just won't let them admit they can be bested by someone given equal equipment. Mark's one hell of a good driver, but he ain't no Vettel

carman - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 3:22 AM

Its exactly what you are Mark, 'a supporting role'. You are in F1 for another year (2013) to have a job and top up your pension. Come 2014, you are another statistic.

akeizm - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 4:46 AM

When you're racing you have to think you're the best. If you don't then you might as well pack up and go home as you've lost already with that mentality.

FreeJack - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 5:17 AM

Richard - I've seen Webber interviewed plenty of times where he makes eye contact, probably just has to do with when you catch him.

As for why his car doesn't perform identically to Vettel's, it has a lot to do with setup and weight differences. Webber outweighs Vettel by a large margin, his weight and the distribution of ballast in the car affects its handling. His style of driving is different from Vettel's. His setup with regard to suspension is going to be quite a bit different. In general this season, he's qualified hot on Vettel's heels during most races and out-qualified him in a couple.

I think the gap between Vettel and Webber as drivers is not nearly as wide as a lot of Crash commentators and other fans seem to think it is. Yes, Vettel has won championships and he does generally have the edge over Webber with raw speed...but he also has the overwhelming support of his team principal and owner, whereas Webber is clearly cast as "second fiddle" by both men. Reasonably so, bec

FreeJack - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 5:19 AM

Reasonably so, because he's the young prodigy they're hanging their hat on, and Webber is in the twilight of his career.

If Webber wasn't happy at Red Bull, he wouldn't have signed another contract with them. I think it's a matter of making sure he has the most competitive package under him on race day, regardless of the politics in the team. Next season, if he's able to achieve the kind of consistency throughout the season that he started 2012 with - and fix his starts - I think he has a chance to make one last run at a WDC. I'd really like to see him end his F1 career on a high note, he's been my favorite driver on the grid for years now.

As for driving a damaged car...shoot, Webber spent half of 2012 without KERS working in his car, I'd wager.


December 01, 2012 6:54 AM
Last Edited 1089 days ago


Your contempt for Webber is palpable. I don't remember you expressing that level of contempt for your favourite little "Flip" when he was overdriving his car and repeatedly smashing the curbs last year.

On a more pleasant note, P4 for Commodore Junior.


December 01, 2012 7:41 AM
Last Edited 1089 days ago

googol. there is no contempt for webber. i just do not rate him as good as say ferdi, lulu, seb, nico etc. am i not allowed to have an opinion on him? and look at the vast majority of posts on this thread. they are a lot more damning than mine.

it is a simple fact, so dont let your nationalism get in the way of facts. you can only assess a drivers ability on his performance, and webbers performance has always been lacking.

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