F1 » Webber: I don’t plan to be in a supporting role

Mark Webber vows to fight for the 2013 F1 title and not simply support Sebastian Vettel

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kimster - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 9:37 AM

Webber, don't try to fool yourself, whether you agree or not you are a number 2 driver and there is no hiding away from that. you know only too well that you don't have the consistency or capabilities to challenge continuously at the top level.


December 01, 2012 9:50 AM
Last Edited 1042 days ago


You may be right about me unfairly singling you out. I apologise for that.

As for your claim that I lack objectivity due to my nationalism, all I can say is that nearly every poster here, including you, have their biaises and blind spots in terms of objectivity, whether it be based on nationalism, personal attitudes, or otherwise.


December 01, 2012 11:35 AM

Mark is an average driver. Look at his time driving Williams with Button. He has never had the talent to win a WDC. Even when has has had a superior car like last year he failed to deliver.

He needs to get over himself and drive hard but fair. Trying to block a team mate who is leading the championship as he did in Brazil is ridiculous.


December 01, 2012 12:17 PM

googol. you should not try to judge me when you know so little about me. i have no bias on nationality or for any other reason. i speak as i find, and if it does not suit some, tough. there are a number of regular posters who are of the same ilk, and like me, they also get some stick for posting what others dont like to hear. generally it is the fanboys who moan the most.


December 01, 2012 1:24 PM
Last Edited 1042 days ago

Whats going on here?.

Mark makes a comment the way he sees and
understands it in lieu of the usual robotic
statements by other drives and complete
nonsense by one and "BOOM."

Yes Richard you show bias together with many
regulars of the forum. We Australians utter a word
and immediately the veneer screen goes up "We
should be seen but not heard".

I take it Rob is a regular. Take a look at his
comment. Is that logical from a F1 Fan towards a
competitor. I think not. It is insulting and I don't care Rob if you don't think so.I considered your integrity and foresight better.

Also Mark will be having a Metal Plate removed from his leg shortly which was inserted following the The Tasmania Challenge during the bike incident a couple of years ago.

P,S. Thanks Googs. He done well. 41c Heat in Sydney.
His team mate not so good. Gone 2013.


December 01, 2012 1:39 PM
Last Edited 1042 days ago

commodore. no i am certainly not biased. as i said, i comment as i find, and if any other driver made the same comment about not supporting his teammate, i would comment exactly the same. it is a team sport nowadays and to maximise results, support is required. i cannot see how mark can make such a comment as reported, prior to a season.

and i would expect that if mark was in a position to win the wdc next year, then seb would support him. but being realistic and non biased, i just cannot see that situation arising, and i have said so for the last three years! mark....prove me wrong!

i cannot speak for rob. we do have a few disagreements now and again, but he has his opinion and this is a forum.

by the way, what on earth was van g doing, crashing into a medical car?

ps hha?


December 01, 2012 1:47 PM

Mark is very lucky to have a job at Red Bull. He is paired with a THREE time WDC. He should have FAR more respect for Vettel. Instead he speaks out against or as in Brazil drives against. He put Vettel in bad spots on three occasions during that race. And now he speaks out before the season has even started. He is no team player.


December 01, 2012 2:35 PM

Richard @ Rob.

What do you not get with this comment.

"Mark makes a comment the way he sees and
understands it in lieu of the usual robotic
statements by other drives and complete
nonsense by one and "BOOM."

Marks comment is suggestive/objective and full of confidence and that makes him a Non Team Player and should not be Employed by RBR. "Break it Down and put things into perspective". For as long as I can remember Mark has always stated he is not open to Team Orders. He is there to race for RBR and the boss D.M appreciates it.He has Said so. His position is not to please Markus or Vettel.

P.S.Richard The Gizz sufferred broken steering on the 1st lap which the Medical Car always follows. When the Medical Car passed him the car veered left and Bang. Did a lot of damage to the porsche. To-morrow will be the last race for The Gizz. He is retiring at a young age and returning to N.Z.. He will return. Very Talented

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