F1 » Webber: I don’t plan to be in a supporting role


Mark Webber vows to fight for the 2013 F1 title and not simply support Sebastian Vettel

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sam - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 7:31 PM

in brazil, suppose it was last lap, alonso second, webber in third place, and vettel needed to move up one place to win wdc. do you think webber would do drop out to get vettel into wdc winning place? i think he would and it is team sport so it is legal, but i think a lot would not like it. red would probably disguise it tho as gearbox trouble to avoid criticism evn tho it is legal.

now what if it webber was out of race but a toro rosso was in third? do you think toro driver would drop out? do you think red bull owning both team would require tr to drop out? good it not happen but it could and if f1 is team sport then each time must be same size.

Robwal - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 10:32 PM

As long as mark continues to drive for redbullmanureracing he is choosing to be a Number 2 driver.
Not even he, as loyal and naive as I think he is, could possibly believe anything else.
Sad to say it, but maybe he believes it is better to be No 2 driver for redbullmanureracing than the prancing horse.

Taipan - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 11:47 PM

Webber may not planning on being a number 2 driver but the bottom line is he has driven a car cable of winning the championship 3 times and 3 times he has lost. He was better off signing with ferrari while he had the chance.

He does not have the skill to get the most out of the car like seb does or alonso and I dare say Hamilton compared to their team mates 95% of the time. Yes there are flashes of great driving, but that doesn't win you championships. Webber is all talk but there are no results to back up what he says.

Webber should shut his mouth and let his driving do the talking next year.

Robwal - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 12:06 AM

rob01

The reason goldenbaby gets no respect from anyone, apart from the team management
at redbullmanureracing and his fanbois, is because he has had his titles handed to him on a silver platter.

It's the same reason he doesn't get much respect from the other drivers, they can see that his "teammate", Mark, has been given no chance to compete with him.
When Webber was leading goldenbaby in the points this year he suddenly received two five place grid penalties for changing "faulty gearboxes".

The only time goldenbaby has had any sort of trouble is when he has stupidly ignored his engineer and pushed his car beyond it's limits and blown it up (multiple times).
That is the cold stark reality.

Objective

December 02, 2012 12:12 AM

My assessment of Webber can be summed up by a race in Monaco where he and Button were driving for Williams. He was stuck behind another driver when Button came up behind him. He passed Webber in the chicane after the tunnel and then the next car in same spot next lap. Webber clearly saw the clean pass twice but took a couple more laps before he tried it. The result of his clumsy attempt was a crash taking both cars out.

SDGT3 - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 12:44 AM

Thanks for the laughs!! What is it about Webber than people defend? He's never done anything with a mediocre car, nor the best car in F1 3 years running. He professes to be a stalward of safety, but will just as much run you off the track if you dare to pass him.

He doesn't understand points and how he is out of the championship race and not supposed to block his teammate to the point his team had to call him into the pits and then tried to pass Seb on a restart in Brazil.

Overrated, overpaid, lucky to be in F1 and a guy that needs to go to a drag racing school to learn how to engage a clutch in 1st gear.

Better drivers:
Vettel
Alonso
Kimi
Hamilton
Button
Rosberg
Maldonado
Grojean

Should I go on?

Actually, now that I think about it, Vettel is the one that's lucky because he doesn't have a top driver that can challenge him in a super quick car.

Googolplex

December 02, 2012 1:10 AM
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Richard,

I greatly enjoy the contributions you make to this webiste and would not like anything below to be taken the wrong way. However, I would like to point out-

First, it was you who first saw fit to express an opinion about my objectivity based on my nationality.

Secondly, you did so based on what you have read of my posts on Crash.net, since you don't otherwise know me nor have we ever met. I, as well, based my comment that you are not always objective on what I have read of your large number of posts over the last three years.

Thirdly, the fact you make a self serving statement that you have no biases does not make it so. We are all judged on what we post here and what we have said historically about different drivers and different teams.

The turkey - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 1:27 AM

Completely agree SDGT3. The only reason Webber has had a drive at all for the last 5 years is because the *****s in charge of this drinks company "racing" team do not have a clue about the skills, attitudes and technical competency necessary to forge an F1 team. These guys will never win a manufacturers point let alone a WDC while they keep employing no-hopers like Webber and that other bloke.

sam - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 3:10 AM

objectif, i think you might be confused but i dont think webber was ever in the same team with button. in the williams team in same time as webber it was heidfeld and rosberg. and webber always going well at monaco. i am not sure he ever crash there but i might be wrong easily or not properly understand what you posted.

Objective

December 02, 2012 5:10 AM

Hi Sam

I had my facts confused. I think it was 2006 and they were in different teams. Webber twice attempted to pass Alonso and the second time he ended up cutting the chicane and bumped Alonso. He ended up with a DNF due to electrical problems. The point remains though that Button managed two clean moves at that point of the track and Webber needed 2 attempts and still made a mess of it.

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