F1 » Ferrari considers Vettel matter closed

Ferrari says the controversy over Sebastian Vettel's suggested yellow flag overtake on Jean-Eric Vergne in Brazil is at an end

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December 02, 2012 9:09 AM

“The engine mapping RBR were using was a blatant breach of the rules”
Yes indeed it was, that's why the FIA made RBR change it, if it wasn't in breach of the rules there wouldn't have been the need to make them change it, but then what the FIA said/wording is a different story which helps to keep some people's faith into RBR type of “FORBI”, it all boils down to in-between being cleaver and devious.


December 02, 2012 9:29 AM

sunny. i do not usually disagree with you, but this time, alas i do. basically unless a rule specifically says that something can not be done, then it is legal, until the rule is adjusted to stop that thing being done, something that the rule makers had not anticipated. newey was one step ahead of them, and that is what f1 is about.
to use your roadside analogy, there might be a 70mph speed limit on all roads, but this does not mean that it is safe to drive at 70 down a twisty country lane. it is legal, until the speed limit is altered to say 30, a more acceptable limit. but again, it is legal to continually drive at 30 to get max time advantage on a journey. not saying its safe, but it is LEGAL. rbr are stretching the rules, but i say, great.


December 02, 2012 9:34 AM


now we go to other items, not anticipated by the rule makers.
ddd honda
ddrs merc
drd lotus/merc/rbr
coanda exhausts

none of these were illegal, but not expected, but they were not addressed during the season. and dont forget, rbr had been using engine mapping technology to their advantage last year, so fia were well forewarned, as were other teams, who chose not to go the same route.


December 02, 2012 11:13 AM

Richard, no need of me saying that it's a right f yours not to agree with me and that it's ok with me, but I still stand with all I said.
Yes the new trend in F1 embarked upon by RBR of being (devious) and forced on the FIA that it's legal until the rule is adjusted (never mind it have been against the rule in the first place so they had to change it) has been a fact of F1 racing this year and it certainly paid dividends to RBR, that's the main denominator of why they are champs.
Yes Newe was one step ahead of the FIA by being devious (FORBI) and yet again yes that's what F1 was turned into this year by Newe/RBR being devious.
No I will not forget the other illegal engine maps RBR used, as you know I can even explain in detail the techs of these maps, a subject that I will prefer to this RBR/FIA can of worms.


December 02, 2012 1:28 PM

the FIA is closing all of these loopholes. Should Newey and the boys try and get cleaver next year the results will be different. That being said, the racing will be even tighter next year. Which is the GOAL of the FIA. Parity thoughout the entire grid.

And I agree with Sunny on the whole Red Bull crap. And yet they yelled the loudest at the end of the year about Dirty Tricks. When they were the experts.

san - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 9:25 PM

any driver who needs his team mate to allow him to pass on team orders for track position or to break a gearbox seal is DEFINATELY not a true champion!!

I wonder if Alonso feels ashame for employing these tactics??

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