F1 » Vergne: I’ve learned a lot to make me stronger

Jean-Eric Vergne vows to return stronger in the 2013 F1 season

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rc212v - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 5:40 PM

Remember how he said at the beginning of the season that nothing could stop him from 'doing Vettel', I mean having the same success with Toro Rossi as Seb. Nothing against him but now he's learnt how hard it is to impress in F1

Yep - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 8:24 PM

Toro Rosso 2008 is superior to the Toro Rosso 2012

And far, far away !
They finished 6th of the 2008 championship... Above RedBull !
So we cannot compare their situations.

JohnO - Unregistered

December 01, 2012 11:33 PM

"Toro Rosso 2008 is superior to the Toro Rosso 2012."

It's interesting how often cars with Vettel in the cockpit end up looking "far superior".

Luke - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 12:03 AM

The 2008 Toro rosso used the Redbull chassis back then but because they where using ferrari engines which that year where the best on the grid, the car was a big step up from the main team who had the underpowered renault units, now STR has to make there own chassis(after 2008 FIA mandated all teams must make their own chassis) and can't use neweys genius so yes the car now is far inferior.

JohnO - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 12:34 AM

Ah, so the Renault engines were "underpowered" in 2008. Remarkably enough, they promptly became "powerful" again in 2009 at the same instant Vettel started driving them. And Newey's "genius" designs, which had been a flop at Red Bull until then, also suddenly started looking much more geniusey at the same time.

That Vettel guy sure is lucky! Whatever car he steps into just happens - purely by coincidence - to suddenly get much better than it was before.

What's even more amazing is that the Ferrari-engined and Newey designed 2009 STR4 had an absolutely woeful record. Doubtless they were underpowered that year.


December 02, 2012 7:47 AM

He makes an interesting point about developing a good understanding and working relationship with the team engineers. He certainly seemed to be the beneficiary of a better racing strategy than Dan did during the season. I don't know how many times Dan seemed to be well placed in a race only to lose out badly with what seemed to be poor pit stop strategy.

Trent - Unregistered

December 03, 2012 2:18 AM

@JohnO, I agree with you about Vettel being a common denominator here, but I think you've dramatically undersold Adrian Newey. He is a brilliant designer, with a CV that is second to none.

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