F1 » Lauda: Vettel will win anywhere

Niki Lauda says Sebastian Vettel can continue to be a success in F1, even if he leaves Red Bull in future

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Ptolomy - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 11:07 AM

Nonsense. Here we go again with "the car is doing the driving" talk.
Sebastian Vettel has absolutely throttled Mark Webber, who by all accounts is a very good and accomplished driver.
And consider that Fernando Alonso would have 4 titles and Jenson Button would have 2 right now if Mark Webber were driving both Red Bulls, because in the last 3 seasons Mark came in well down the order.
Do you think that just possibly this young German man has some exceptional driving skills.
Or do still just think it is the magic car?


December 02, 2012 11:54 AM

ptolomy. what some people seem to overlook is the fact that a teenager in equal cars, trounced everyone else. yes, seb in formula bmw trounced his rivals. no golden spoon, no superior car, just superior skill. and then when he was given a racer in the bmw f1, as a teenager, he again showed up a lot of other f1 drivers, with one of bmws best results up to that date.

there will always be some, particularly supporters of another driver, who will try and downplay sebs abilities. maybe after five years and some stunning drives, they should finally realise how good he actually is.

jim crint - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 12:28 PM

@richard - totally agree with that, but then again, the top guys in F1 have usually arrived with reputations after blitzing their opponents in the lower formulas. But some just don't seem to make the transition to F1 at all well, and sort of stay in a GP2 mindset (ie Grosjean, Kobayashi? Great drivers but far too rash!!).

Vettel has always had stunning speed and maturity (and incredible luck, it has to be said, but that usually balances out over a career), and those two recovery drives put to bed any idea that he can't overtake. Although Vettel kind of annoys me (as I was hoping, in 2010 and this year for an Alonso WDC), I totally get how good he is and I'm sure he'll go on to win more titles, although hopefully not for a year or two.

JohnO - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 5:17 PM

"Do you think that just possibly this young German man has some exceptional driving skills. Or do still just think it is the magic car"

I notice that a number of people have retroactively upgraded the 2008 Torro Rosso to "magic car" status as well. There's no idea so preposterous that some people won't adapt it.

JohnO - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 5:33 PM

"see how he might react to, essentially, not having Adrian Newey at the helm."

Yes, yes. This is a variant of the "How would Jose Mourinho do if he was managing QPR?" type of question.

In that vein, allow me to wonder how Newey would get on if he was working for Caterham and had Petrov and Pic driving his cars.

Significantly worse than how he'd get on if he was working for McLaren and had Kimi driving his cars, I'm sure. And we know how that turned out - not a lot of magic in evidence. It's a whole lot easier to be a genius car designer when you have the likes of Mansell and Prost and Vettel driving your cars.


December 02, 2012 5:40 PM

johno. the problem at macca was that dennis did not give newey free rein to innovate. in fact, that was the reason that adrian declined to stay with them. he left to further his ideas initialy in ac yachts (well, air and water are both fluidic dynamics) but the lure of a totally free hand lured him to redbull. and the rest is history. he is also allowed to race his cars, something that dennis prohibited him from doing.

JohnO - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 7:14 PM

"the lure of a totally free hand lured him to redbull"

There is no "totally free hand" in current F1. It's by far the most tightly regulated era in the history of the sport. Even if Newey was the mighty sorcerer some people think he is - and I don't believe the record bears that out - the reality is that he can't alter anything on the car without the FIA and other teams looking over his shoulder.


December 02, 2012 7:58 PM
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johno. of course the designers can and should be allowed to explore every avenue of possible gain. the "dispute" with macca was well known and reported on. and as for the comment that neweys record does not bear up to his reputation, please advise what cars he designed that were not successful. the leyton house was the only car that did not win a race, and the debut was poor, but it did provide some amazing performances

Ptolomy - Unregistered

December 02, 2012 8:31 PM

Lets not forget that when Adrian Newey was with McLaren, he was overshadowed by the control freak Ron Dennis. Adrian Newey willingly left one of the most well funded teams with one of the most capable facilities because he didn't like Ron Dennis. Adrian has built Red Bull in his own shadow and is now wiping out what is left of the once great F1 team McLaren.
So, with that in mind, Sebastian WILL have the goods to win "ANYWHERE" as Lauda now says. Of course its after the title has been won that this prophet speaks.

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