F1 » Mateschitz: Toro Rosso must improve

Toro Rosso told to improve by Red Bull boss Dietrich Mateschitz after difficult 2012 season

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December 10, 2012 11:51 AM

STR seems like an ass of a team to work for. All the Red Bull and STR management seem to do is moan that either the drivers are not good enough or the car is not good enough.

Whilst I didn't particularly rate either Buemi or Alguersuari, they way the team treated them was quite poor I think.

Especially for Alguersuari, who had a firm offer from Lotus and turned them down out of loyalty to Red Bull because he was told he'd kept his seat at STR, only to then be told later that actually they were dumping him.


Porcelina - Unregistered

December 10, 2012 11:59 AM

This team need to get off the grid. For all Vettel's good driving in Abu Dhabi and Brazil, he has three cars that will instantly jump out the way for him and not his rivals. That's completely unsporting and I can't believe more hasn't been made of it. There have been countless situations where an STR has played the team game for RBR - especially with JEV and DR, who know the consequences of not playing ball (like when Alguersuari held up Vettel in Korea FP1).

They'll only ever aspire to be the second best team on the grid, which, well, if that's your attitude to F1 then get off the grid.


December 10, 2012 1:08 PM

porcellina. what a comment! first of all the team is there to groom up-and-comings for rbr. secondly, their car is not too shabby. it has pace, but have you not considered that maybe the drivers are not driving the car to the best of its ability? it would be interesting to see if rbr would put in seb or mark, and see what their lap times would be.
and finally, why should it be put off the grid? there are worse teams on the grid. maybe they should go first?

Oh, and by the way, you say they jump out of sebs way when he is trying to pass. did you not know that it will happen when seb is catching them in a faster car, and that lapped cars have to let the faster car past? apart from that, it certainly makes inter team sense!


December 10, 2012 2:07 PM

Yikes, that's a pretty bitter and twisted view of things.

I think the car was ok out of the box but was hardly developed all year when you compare it to say the Force India car. Ricardo dragged in quite high up the grid on qualifying on more than one occasion.


December 10, 2012 3:10 PM

**roach. good idea. webber to str and vergne to rbr. after all, webber is the lesser of the two bull drivers, and vergne is the better of the two str drivers!

now, that wont make the ozzies happy!

David Chaste - Unregistered

December 10, 2012 3:42 PM

There's was no continuity when they switched both race drivers from last year. But I guess when you have many drivers waiting their turn, that's what you have to do to reduce a bit of the back log.

In my opinion they should employ former F1 drivers or very successful drivers in other very competitive series to mentor the youngsters. It might boost their learning curve.

Even though Jaime was Loyal to the team when they dropped him per his contract he had a nice payout. So the team did not do anything wrong.

big boss - Unregistered

December 10, 2012 3:44 PM

Alguersuari never had a firm Lotus offer on the table. He just likes to tell everyone who wants to listen to him. The same as he has no firm offer from a midfield team for next year, even though he is telling for months now that he has. Grosjean was always first choice under the condition he wins the GP2 title, which he did. Grosjean is french, managed by Boullier and has french oil giant Total backing him. A no brainer.

And no Alguersuari has had his Toro Rosso contract not renewed due to Marko telling him off in one irrelevant practice session in Korea. If you believe that you must also belive in the tooth fairy. Alg was beaten by Buemi in qualifying and his complete commitment to F1 was questioned at the time.

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