"Unlike the RB5. Which was the fastest."

Again, you offer some wildly speculative opinions as if they were unvarnished truth. It's peculiar that the "fastest car" in 2009, driven by two fast drivers, actually won fewer races and fewer total points than did the Brawns driven by two relative slowpokes. You'll be telling me next that Button is one of the fastest drivers in F1.

Alonso only won in 2005 and 2006 because he had a secret bottle of nitrous. Hey, it's no crazier than the stuff you are saying! Go ahead and prove it wrong.

Yes Alonso won with nitrous. That's exactly how he did it....
He had the best car that's why he won. Vettel has the best car. That's how he won. But you can't deny that Alonso was the best driver this year. 99.9% of people will agree that Except you and the other Red Bull fans maybe.
Button isn't the fastest driver in F1 at all. On his day he can be as quick as the best but that doesn't happen every weekend unlike Hamilton and Alonso. Vettel can be as well. But he hasn't proved he can do it in a bad car. He did it once, maybe twice if you wanna include china 2009.
Red bull won 6 in 2009, not 7 like I said before, h well, I admitted a mistake and the Brawns won 8. This year Red Bull won 7 and Ferrari won 3. How does the Red Bull RB5 end up being as inferior as the Ferrari F2012? It wasn't. It took more poles than the Ferrari did, more wins compared to. What you call the fastest car in 2009. So based on the fact and real race results, not made up Red Bull fanboy results, the Rb5 can't

Will all you racing fans including jackie do any of these team make an inferior car all teams try to bring a perfect fast car to racing , and if you,ll forget all these engine have the same cc if ferrari was winning or mclaren we would be hearing the same foolishness what jackie don,t understand is that RED BULL have a complete package and they let they drivers race so if one car don,t win the other will ferrari have to let us see there driver racing and stop looking at just one driver and stop thinking the F I A should let them do as their please jackie yopu are old go home and sit down and rest your self you had the best engine ford supply in your days and you were always a number one .

You guys..... I've already tried having this whole debate with JohnO.

His basic idea is to try and make the RB look bad so he can "try" and make Seb look better than he is.

I still agree with Stewart. To me a true "great" is a driver who does amazing thing before and after they have the best car, drove "epic" races for the history books and generally be know as easily the best driver in the field. Seb is not easily the best driver, I would say Ferdi is. Seb did nothing outright in the STR as Monza was a fluke - All the front runners were caught out in quali because of rain and started well down the field so he didn't beat them outright and fair and square, but still he took the lucky opportunity and grabbed it so he does score some points there. Compare that to Senna's first win where he did win quali and the race fair and square by skill. His first 2 years at Lotus he got 15 poles and 4 wins, compared to Sebs lucky 1 and 1. Thats the difference between a great and pretty good driver

Dan,
The 2009 Brawn had a huge advantage over their rivals with the double diffuser. Yes, Red Bull did indeed catch up around round 10, but don't overstate how great the RB5 was out of the box, because your assessment is inaccurate. As far as this past seasons results, I believe that Massa showed very good pace when allowed to actually race. His pace displays that the Ferrari was not the terrible car you portray. The McLaren was equally a fine car, only limited by the comedy of errors made in strategy, shunts, and pit stop miscues. I believe your blinkered Red Bull hatred prevents you from seeing the obvious.

@izybluffen
Please point out anything Alonso has achieved, while not competing in a top car? Hamilton for that matter? You can't, because they haven't done anything of note in a truly incapable car. Please hold all the drivers to the same standard, not the double standard you currently are applying.

UncleSam - I never mentioned Lulu, but as for Ferdi, how about nearly winning this year and 2010 without the best car, how about the races he has won the past 3 years without the best car. Double standards..... I think not.
How can you also hold drivers to the same standard when drivers are not on the same levels.

@izybluffen
It is all subjective, all of the top cars had their strengths and weaknesses, some were better suited for different tracks and/or conditions, so they were victorious. It isn't quantum physics, it is racing. Still you have failed to display the Ferdi is such a skilled driver that he wins in a lesser car, after all he is still in a Ferrari. It isn't like he could win in the HRT, or anyone else for that matter. He certainly didn't win or elevate Minardi in any way. I think your assessment is skewed just to defame and discredit Vettel.

Jackie who....just talk...as always.

The kid came back from the back many times this year.
When he takes it next year...Stewart..will say just another gift because he has a great car....what an old man who has lost it would say...Jackie???

i fully agree with jackie stewart vettal is only as good as his car,alonso is a much more talented driver, so is hamilton.but in reality the driver with the best car usaly ends up with the titel just the way the sport is,i think if schuy had the red bull over the 3 years he would of left the opposition standing .