F1 » Hamilton free to begin Mercedes career

Lewis Hamilton has made his first official visit to the Mercedes factory in Brackley as he begins work on his 2013 season.

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David Chaste - Unregistered

December 18, 2012 10:26 PM

Lewis winning will giver Mercedes way more headlines than Nico winning. Lewis is simply a bigger draw than Nico, and is simply a lot better known (for good and bad).

As far as developing a car everyone here is forgetting that after his australia win, button could not do anything right until Hamilton's setup was used on his car. From that point on they checked Button's setup against Hamilton's.

If they did not do that, Button would have finished further down the order.

Someone compared a rookie Nico Rosberg to a veteran Mark Webber. That's just unfair. They were in the same team, but Nico was a rookie then, and Webber had years in F1.

David Chaste - Unregistered

December 18, 2012 10:37 PM

Why is everyone saying that Lewis could not beat Alonso or Vettel in the fastest car.

Alonso and Vettel are clearly the go-to-guys intheir teams. They get the best strategy. Alonso does not race Massa at all. Massa always gives way.

If you're making that comparison you have to look at Button as well. He had the same car as Lewis, and is also a champion, but he didn't beat them either.

Maybe the car was not as fast as we think. It might have been Lewis over-driving it to make speed. And Lewis' setup is what was being used on Jenson's car.

bibex - Unregistered

December 19, 2012 9:40 AM

richard when you say: lulu on the other hand, was in what is acknowledged to be the fastest car, yet still managed only 4th in the wdc, only 2 points ahead of button.

That is not at all bad considering he had exactly double the retirements of Button this year and STILL finished in front of him.

Just imagine how far in front he would have been if he hadnt of retired from the lead those 3 times


December 19, 2012 10:39 AM

bibex. dont go into the "what ifs"!. other front runners also had problems, yet got better results. what is the old mantra? to finish first, first you have to finish.

if the points were awarded for quali only, there would be no point in having a race.

bibex - Unregistered

December 19, 2012 11:19 AM

richard "other front runners also had problems, yet got better results" ???

How can other front runners get better results if they have also retired as many times as Hamilton you do not make sense!! if you do not finish you do not get points simple!

In the 11 races that JB and LH both finished this season it was 8-3 to Hamilton so nobody can say that He was a more inconsistent driver thab JB this year


December 19, 2012 1:17 PM

Bibex, "Lulu had exactly double the retirements of Button" Really?

Button had 2 mechanical DNFs Italy and Bahrain.
Button had 2 collisions Monaco and South Korea.

2+2 = 4 (exactly)

Lulu had 2 mechanical DNFs Abu Dhabi and Singapore.
Lulu had 3 collisions Brazil, Belgium and Valencia.

2+3 = 5 (exactly)

Now when I went to school 2x4 did not = 5 (exactly)

As for Lulu's other retirement at Germany, the car set the fastest lap while messing with the leaders even though he was lapped and retired one lap later claiming handling issues, BS he just gave up and parked a perfectly good car.

bibex - Unregistered

December 19, 2012 1:35 PM

Taipan, Button was classified as finishing Bahrain 18th as he completed over 90% of the race so its a finish NOT a retirement.

so he had only 3 retirements this season.

Please dont go down the road of statistics between these 2 drivers as apart from the points scored over 3 years it gets very embarrasing for JB

Hertfordshire - Unregistered

December 19, 2012 1:51 PM

I wonder how many times Jenson had a retirement while leading a race?

I wonder how many times Jenson was leading a main competitor only to be passed in the pits by a pit crew that showed such gross incompetence?

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