F1 » Marko: No change in balance of power

Helmut Marko says Mark Webber will be number two to Sebastian Vettel again in 2013

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January 04, 2013 9:31 PM

jjj. nothing at all to do with fanboyism.

marko was in his first year racing. there were 25 cars on the grid. marko was eighth. he beat the likes of peterson, hill, lauda etc. and as i said , the brm was on a serious downhill spiral. yes beltoise got the only win of his career, but he was far more experienced than marko.

incidentally, when marko and van l were in the same sp car, marko was the fastest!

ok. i accept that you dont like him, but that is no reason to be insulting about him.

didi trusts him, and the other day, niki was praising him as a driver. still, never let actual facts deter you from being insulting about a well respected driver and team spokesman.

there may be team managers etc that i am not enamoured with, but i respect their position and find no need to speak bad of them.

JohnO - Unregistered

January 04, 2013 10:19 PM

"Remember who drove for Ferrari on those days? Renault? McLaren? Oh yes that's right...nobody, as only the lower end teams fielded 3rd drivers on friday and BMW was the best team among that group."

I DO remember who drove for Ferrari on those days, Massa and Schumacher!

What that means in practice is that the drivers Vettel beat on Friday practice were NOT just the "3rd drivers" of teams like Red Bull, Williams, and Toyota but also the 1st drivers of Renault, Ferrari, and McLaren. To be specific, among the drivers Vettel was faster than in Friday practice were Button, Schumacher, Raikkonen, Masaa and Alonso.

The runner up to Vettel in Friday practice in Turkey was Massa in the Ferrari. You seem to have convinced yourself that Friday practice was Amateur Hour where the big boys did not not participate. You're wrong.

FreeJack - Unregistered

January 04, 2013 10:44 PM

Well if these comments aren't laying all of Marko's cards on the table, I don't know what is...he's basically saying, "We expect Mark to deliver constructor's points and not to challenge Vettel...and he knows that's what we expect of him." I am really, really hoping that Webber writes a book after he retires, to let his fans know exactly what was REALLY happening all of these years, as Vettel's teammate.

JJJ - Unregistered

January 04, 2013 11:03 PM


You forget that the 3rd drivers, in contrast to the regular drivers, didn't have to save tyres for the race and didn't have to set up the car for the race. Basically they could go out for a glory run all the time. Even some of the other 3rd drivers in much worse teams than BMW Sauber were regularly in the top 5, which was in no way a true reflection of their true pace.

When the real qualifying came, Vettel was P7, 7 tenths off of his teammate (who's not really regarded as the best qualifier ever) on the grid and was lucky to score a point in the race because his teammate retired from a podium position. It's just the facts m8, no need to kid yourself.

JJJ - Unregistered

January 04, 2013 11:06 PM


You wouldn't be one of these guys who maintains MSC is still the best driver out there eventhough he got his backside handed to him by Rosberg 3 years running by any chance, are you?

JohnO - Unregistered

January 05, 2013 8:05 PM

JJJ, you could write your entire knowledge of F1 on the back of a postage stamp with ample room to spare.

Schumacher was WDC runner-up in 2006, the year in question.

But at least you are consistent in your contempt for the greatest drivers in history!


January 06, 2013 6:21 AM

In other words. . . "We at Redbull racing will always favour Sebastian. Even if Mark is our leading driver in the championship, or even if he has a good chance of winning the championship, we will still always favour Sebastian."

Charlieboy - Unregistered

January 06, 2013 2:07 PM

It's so funny how people seem to believe in the abilities of a driver based on how much they like them as a person!

Whether it's Webber over Vettel or Button over Hamilton. They may be good guys but the statistics really do speak for themselves. If you disagrees then you are just a bigotted 'fanboy' who is acting out their fantasy driving career through a button or a webber.

It's time the F1 community recognized Vettel's abilities, it doesn't take away anything from anyone else. Regardless it is reality.

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