F1 » Dennis: We could have kept Hamilton

Ron Dennis says McLaren could have kept Lewis Hamilton for the 2013 F1 season but it 'wouldn't have been the right thing to do'

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January 06, 2013 5:49 PM

Sunny again, didn't Schumacher find he was unwanted at Ferrari ( for Kimi ) hence the reason for his first retirement cos none of the other teams wanted him ..... although as Eddie Jordan found out way back in 1991 that there's always a loophole in a contract

Michael Fornarina - Unregistered

January 06, 2013 5:57 PM

Hey Sennaforever, Ya' beat me to it.. in response to 107ss2009 -- sometimes there is just not the right TOP seat available when a TOP driver wants to move -- Schumacher found that out when he left Ferrari (for motorcycles) Kimi found that when he was asked to leave Ferrari (went to WRC) So did Montoya when he left Mac (went to NASCAR) it appears the folks who don't like Lewis want to make a special case that a top-line drive is always waiting for a top-line driver.. which was the case when 'Zo left Mclaren there was no top drive ready.. Renault was slipping down-grid but he had to take it.


January 06, 2013 6:02 PM
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@ Sunny yet again
oops, and more recently, can I remind you of Damon Hill and Williams .....AND Mansell and Williams, they both had a WDC under their belts so I think that would make them top drivers too wouldn't it? I don't think there were any top seats left for any of them at the time

Michael Fornarina - Unregistered

January 06, 2013 6:05 PM

@Richard Re: Customer Engines.. and FIA specs --F1 is full of tricks and slight of hand, Redbull's Helmut Marko complained that when they tried to 'learn' about the engines in the Scuderia Ferrari F1 cars by examining the Customer Ferrari engine in the STR what they learned was that it was not the same engine. I think Mclaren will discover this in 2014, the trick engine in the Merc will not be what they are getting.. besides they lose the works advantage of having the Mercedes engines design be integrated with the Mclaren basic chassis architecture.. which means 2014 Mclaren will shoe-horn in the new Merc lump similar to what Force India and Sauber have to do now.


January 06, 2013 7:03 PM

michael. it appears that you do not have full access to f1 regs. i suggest that you enter the fia site and look them up. the fia supplied enginespec must be adhered to at all times. oh, and by the way, funny that force india and mclaren, both customer engines, are faster than the mercs own team!!!

further. of course ferdi is happy with lulu signing for merc....it is one less rival to worry about!

debate is great, but paranoia about engines is just plain DAFT!


January 06, 2013 8:30 PM

Michael Fornarina, for Red Bull to compare the STR engine to the factory engine, they would also need access to both teams engines, I just can't see Ferrari giving them 'that' kind of access


January 06, 2013 8:40 PM

Sennaforever, yes, Renault blamed Prost for losing the 1988 championship by two points and fired him, again there and then unlike the bickering of the Lulu/mclaren affair.
About Schumacher you are out of order, facts are with Raikonen contracted to come to FERRARI in 2007 Schumacher decided to quit.
It should be noted that both Prost and Schumacher both have unprecedented achievements in the sports.
Saying “nobody wanted Schumacher” is a blaspheme and an insult to the intelligence of F1 followers.
Fornarina, Lulu was left no other way but to leave mclaren (take it or leave it)


January 06, 2013 9:36 PM

Fornarina, up to 2006 when engine development was still ongoing in FI anybody supplying an engine to a second team could not supply upgraded engines (developments) that were developed during the racing season to the supplied team.
As from 2006 when engine ongoing developments were totally frozen by the FIA the engine manufacturers had to deposit an engine with the FIA as intended to be raced from that time onwards.
As far as I know by that time FERRARI were only supplying complete power packs (engine and gearbox unites) which meant that even the rear suspension points was standard FERRARI design.

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