F1 » Newey: Rule change led to slow start

Adrian Newey says Red Bull was slow out of the blocks in 2012 after being forced to make a late change to its exhaust design

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January 20, 2013 7:32 AM

Some of the terms that have been used and attributed too in qualifying Newey as genius “which he certainly is” are, pushing the boundaries, pushing the barriers, pushing the rules, the mentality of such people using such terms/reasoning is certainly entertaining, but coming from those that should know better it's irritating. What should be realised is that boundaries, barriers and rules are a marker/line and that if this marker/line is pushed qualifies even a genius as not only having stepped on that line but as having stepped over it.

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January 20, 2013 10:03 AM

The people who make and implement the rules have not accused the Red Bull team of of any wrong doings and i don't see a governing body who has to rewrite or reword its regs due to a teams exploiting ambiguity within those regs as being anything more than keeping that governing body on its toes.

F1 is virtually a spec sport and if we can have engineers who can come up with mechanical or aerodynamic advantages due to innovation that puts them in front his/her fellow competitors and it within the rules according to that governing body then whats the problem.


January 20, 2013 2:39 PM

If the innovations they can come up with are within the rules there should not be any problem, the problem with such statements coming from a biased supporter/s stems from the fact that advantage is being taken from the FIA inefficiency/inconsistency and then when finally action is taken the wording used, firstly to cover their own ass and secondly not to disrupt the status qui. One example of such an innovation was when RBR had manipulated the engine management software to use both lunch control and traction control, a true contravention of the rules which qualifies as cheating. Technically speaking they did this by altering the software so that the relationship between torque delivery and throttle position was no longer linear. The FIA wording did not say it was cheating, it said they closed a hole in the rules, but the fact is lunch control and traction control are banned.


January 20, 2013 2:44 PM

richard will still think that Red Bull was innovative. Yes i agree that newey looks at banned areas and goes after them the hardest. He cares not for the spirit of the rule or the rules themselves.


January 20, 2013 3:33 PM

sunny. not sure if you are referring to me when you mention a biased supporter. rob seems to think that you are!
but unless the rules specifically ban something, i am all for any innovation that is legal. the list of bending the rules is endless. mercs ddrs, the drd, the f duct, etc etc. and remember maccas fiddle brake? they used it and their results stood, even though it was subsequently banned as traction control. as regards traction control...should we ban drivers as they have the ultimate traction control? their right foot!

rob. newey does not look at banned areas. he looks at areas where there is NO restriction, and works out if he can use it to his advantage. in fact, ANY designer worth his salt, would do likewise. if they dont, they should be fired. your favourite ddd was a prime example. no rule banning it, so it was used. but fia did not ban it until the end of the year. why not? it suited them to have a different car winning.


January 20, 2013 4:57 PM

richard, on a side note do you think the new nose rules will finally eliminate the flexing of the front wing? And yes i know other teams have a front wing that does the same. FIA is fixing to add enough weight to the test to nearly flip the car. And where is the Snake. Probably off solving the drainage at Silverstone.


January 20, 2013 5:06 PM

Richard, it's obvious that Rob thinks I am (was) because he believes you are.
As for me, I said, “by a biased supporter/s”, in short it means I was addressing any and all biased supporters.


January 20, 2013 5:38 PM

Rob, I wasn't after an explanation so there wasn't the need too.
I don't know if you have seen it, but Alonso have started the season by going over the finishing line of an ice cart race (intentionally) backwards.

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