F1 » Loss of wind tunnel not ideal, admits Ferrari


Ferrari says that it is focussing on aerodynamic developments for its new car, despite currently being without a wind tunnel at its F1 headquarters in Maranello.

Sort Comments: Oldest | Newest
Filter Comments: All | Registered

numbers

February 04, 2013 7:28 AM

@RobG
Thanks for the link - good read. Hadn't really thought about pressurizing the tunnel to get around the velocity restriction, but that's clever...and probably very expensive! Could run a heavy gas, too (or water?). Seems you'd have to write your rules quite specifically to ensure you're limiting what you intend to limit regardless of tunnel scale.

RobG - Unregistered

February 02, 2013 11:00 PM

@numbers
heres a good read www.f1technical.net/articles/47

Wind tunnels are an evolving item, like most items in F1, forever looking for more accurate results.
The 50 m/s (180 km/h) is the actual max speed allowed, but not sure if FIA actually monitor this or generally leave it to teams honesty. Renaults 1999 tunnel used pressurized air to simulate speeds as high as 480 km/h.

Saubers 2004 tunnel uses 3000kW for a 15 square-metre cross-section. It also allows for 2 cars (one behind the other) to be in it, to simulate the slipstreaming capabilities.
And its true that there should be a limit on the number of staff used to do the testing as well.

Sadly, unless F1 cars look & behave like street cars, little of this testing is passed onto them as refinements.

rob01

February 02, 2013 10:46 PM

After getting egg all over their face last year with the Unbeatable Structure you can bet there were discussions on the launch this year. But more egg showed up when Fernando announced he had no interest in running the car at first test. Maybe all that Vettel talk got him angry.

numbers

February 02, 2013 6:19 PM

One other question for you, RobG - I believe that a full-scale tunnel is quite expensive to build given equipment cost differences and to operate from a power standpoint, but is it really that significantly more expensive than a 60% scale tunnel?

It would seem a majority of the cost is going to be tied up in aquiring the engineers to calibrate / operate / maintain the equipment, run the tests and interpret the data. You'd still need this same technical expertise for a scale tunnel.

Sounds from your posts like you might have some experience with these matters.

numbers

February 02, 2013 6:14 PM

Any idea what problems they're having with the tunnel? I presume it's related to the age / declining accuracy of the data aquisition equipment and not the physical structure or air-moving machinery...yes?

Also, does anyone know if the 180 kph speed restriction is on the scale speed or actual air speed in the tunnel?

Thanks.

Page 1 of 2
1 2  »

Join the conversation - Add your comment

Please do not post any personal abuse or attacks.

  • (this will never be displayed, but is required for email notification of follow-up comments)

    Email me when this topic is updated.

Note: Your comment may take a few minutes to appear

Although the administrators and moderators of this website will attempt to keep all objectionable comments off these pages, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the poster, and neither Crash Media Group nor Crash.Net will be held responsible for the content of any message. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. If you find a message objectionable, please contact us and inform us of the problem or use the [report] function next to the offending post. Any message that does not conform with the policy of this service can be edited or removed with immediate effect.