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Felipe Massa's day three pace tops combined Jerez timesheets, but is lap time as valuable as Sebastian Vettel's high of 298 total laps?

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richard

February 11, 2013 2:49 PM
Last Edited 597 days ago

danny boy. please read my comments. where did i say that you were guilty of "stupid fanboyism"? i do not even know who is your hero! i said, in a general response, that i was too old to be taken in by stupid fanboyism. what is wrotng with that?. the question about being a clairvoyant is totally relevant as you made a statement that others would have won the wdc in the bull. NOBODY can know that!

if you do not agree with what i say, please ignore it, as i intend to ignore your constant attacks.

Golden oldie - Unregistered

February 11, 2013 6:08 PM

Hey Dan & Richard,
Don't get so carried away in your debate!
I asked in my previous posting your opinion but apparently you are too busy with a discussion which is irrelevant to the article.
So please have a look at my posting and I would be delighted to have a reaction!

richard

February 11, 2013 6:26 PM

g o. had to scroll back to see what your question was. sorry cannot answer your question, but i have referred to these special non-race tyres in relation to buttons times. it was a hard tyre that was faster than the softs! maybe a softer sidewall? but the surface at jerez was also unusually abrasive. abrasion means grip, so maybe that is why the hard tyre was acting like a soft?
as i said, i havent seen what massa or bianchi were on, as even the markings were disguised.

dont forget also , that cars did not need to be in race trim. lotus for example, was using drs over the whole track, something that is not allowed in quali or practice this year, AND the rev limiters could be turned off!

that is why these testing times are basically irrelevant.

richard

February 11, 2013 6:26 PM

g o. had to scroll back to see what your question was. sorry cannot answer your question, but i have referred to these special non-race tyres in relation to buttons times. it was a hard tyre that was faster than the softs! maybe a softer sidewall? but the surface at jerez was also unusually abrasive. abrasion means grip, so maybe that is why the hard tyre was acting like a soft?
as i said, i havent seen what massa or bianchi were on, as even the markings were disguised.

dont forget also , that cars did not need to be in race trim. lotus for example, was using drs over the whole track, something that is not allowed in quali or practice this year, AND the rev limiters could be turned off!

that is why these testing times are basically irrelevant.

107SS2009

February 11, 2013 8:36 PM

Pirelli have confirmed that in agreement with the teams each car was given 35 sets of tyres for the first test as follows. 1 set of soft, 6 sets of medium, 7 sets of hard, 3 sets of intermediate, 3 sets of wet, the super soft was not provided as it is not suitable for the Jerez circuit. The above tyres are the new for 2013 Pirelli tyres which are quite different to the 2012 tyres. Engine rev limiters cannot be touched. Teams will run 4 fuel load levels in testing, 20kg, 60kg, 80kg and 140kg, most of the running (testing) is done with 60/80kg loads, 140kg (full tank) is used for a race simulation, 20kg load is used for 6 laps run, less than 20kg is used to simulate qualifying. Although things will change with every outing of a car I do take testing seriously and do read a lot out of them.

richard

February 11, 2013 8:57 PM

sunny. pirelli also stated that they brought special request tyres, and this was also mentioned by the sky commentators. it caused confusion as the commentators pointed out that there were orange and red markings, and some tyres had no colour coding.

apart from that, whitmarsh , in an interview also stated that some cars were running above the rev limit, and that it was perfectly legal, as the rules do not apply during testing, and that this was why some cars were also using their drs

107SS2009

February 11, 2013 9:05 PM

When a team goes testing they go through a work program/schedule, provided this work program/schedule has been done with and provided the car status/situation permits everybody and his dog will try his best to register the fastest time and some people following F1 should stop trying kidding themselves about (the fastest times means nothing).

107SS2009

February 11, 2013 9:15 PM

As per the tyres (Pirelli in agreement with the teams) and also about the rev limiter I stand with what I said/posted that is regardless of what Sky and MW said.
As per the use of DRS, yes it can be used at will.

richard

February 11, 2013 9:33 PM

pirelli info.
20 sets supplied and 15 special request sets..per car

day 1 track temp 28o
jb 1.18.861 hard new
mw 1.19.709 med new
rg 1.19.796 hard new

day2
rg 1.18.218 soft new
diresta 1.19.003 soft new
ricc 1.19.184 med new

day3 track temp 5o
fm 1.17.879 soft new
nr 1.18.766 med new
sv 1.19.052 med new

day4
kr 1.18.148 soft new
jb 1.18.175 soft new
sv 1.18.565 hard new

note track temps and speed of hards

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