F1 » Lowe to join Mercedes at end of year - report


“Paddy Lowe's rumoured move to Mercedes is a done deal,” claims The Guardian

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SJ - Unregistered

February 26, 2013 5:02 PM

"We made Lewis an offer - an offer, which I believe is more money than any other driver at the moment is being paid."

Google that quote and you will see the sources, including the BBC and the official F1 website.

The Guardian also has him saying the following: "I know we made a very big financial offer, bigger than I believe any Formula One driver is enjoying today."

Another BBC article: "The offer that we made was higher I believe than any other driver in F1 is currently receiving or will receive next year."

I looked for a reference to the offer being relative only to the current drivers 'on the market', but couldn't find one. He appears to say "any" driver.

My conclusion involves interpreting quotes rather than hard numbers, but it would appear McLaren improved their original offer from a pay cut to the best pay deal in F1 of "any" driver, in the face of Hamilton's defection to Merc. I can't find any public source that claims McLaren's final offer to Hamilton would have amou

SJ - Unregistered

February 26, 2013 5:04 PM

Cont.

I can't find any public source that claims McLaren's final offer to Hamilton would have amounted to a pay cut.

Sorry for the verbose comment.

107SS2009

February 26, 2013 5:24 PM

These Lulu fan boys should remember that the first official words to the print media regarding the Lulu contract negotiations were uttered by RD when he said that Lulu's new contract terms must include a pay cut, I am convinced that mclaren had no financial problems and that they could have afforded Lulu, that situation lead me to believe that at the start of negotiations mclaren had already decided not to hold on to Lulu, the rest said is all hot air, there is more than one way of getting rid of a stomach irritation without announcing it to the four winds and, at the same time mclaren took the opportunity to make Mercedes intended projections as expensive as possible.
An employee being asked to take a pay cut because of the financial situation at the place of work is one thing and an employee being told he must take a pay cut when there is no financial problems at the place of work is another.

SJ - Unregistered

February 26, 2013 5:42 PM

As you say, they were RD's *first* words on the matter - in June of last year. It seems evident to me that they subsequently negotiated that pay cut up to a pay rise as their final offer. Is Whitmarsh lying in all of those quotes? I personally doubt it.

For what it's worth, I agree that McLaren had the money to meet Mercedes' offer, but decided on their valuation of Hamilton and that was that.

mclarenmp423 - Unregistered

February 26, 2013 6:08 PM

SJ thank you for confirming what i have been saying that the Mclaren team principal and the chief negotiator for the Lewis 2013 contract was the one who made the comments regards Mclaren making Hammi a offer which would make him the top paid driver. As you can see some of the more maturer f1 fans have a problem in excepting what Whitmarsh has said on many occasions and that Lewis had the audacity to say no to Mclaren who initially tried to pull a fast one by saying due to the global economics at this time they may have to cut wonderboys wages.

Bernie was the first one who suggested that Lewis may leave Mclaren or be pushed even before the 2012 season had begun so Mclaren had this in the pipeline as all the top seats were or would be taken but they never figured on the Mercs team giving Lewis some bargaining power which lead to pay cut to highest paid in f1 lol.
Any way SJ thanks for a least taking the time to find out the facts instead of making them up like the gruesome threesome l

107SS2009

February 26, 2013 6:54 PM

Mclaren's stand/strategy was decided upon/devised before the negotiations started and to me it looked like they stuck to their decisions, what mclaren were really doing was making things more expensive for Mercedes exactly like when bids at an auction are driven up intentionally without intending to buy.
Only a fool or a one eyed fan boy will try console his hurt/feelings by politically driven speak.

107SS2009

February 26, 2013 9:09 PM

Some of the time decisions taken and or strategies undertaken will hurt some (known/calculated quantity), a good strategist will try to off load some of that hurt on the other party concerned.

107SS2009

February 26, 2013 9:22 PM

Mclarenmp423 (RGB), at the time of the tweeter gate any slightest lingering doubt I had that Lulu's position at mclaren was untenable was totally gone, my surprise was the length of time it took mclaren to act.

sam - Unregistered

February 26, 2013 10:41 PM

since whitmarsh has become f1 boss. the macca team is just spiralling downwards, and perez/button for wdc dream on martin
for as long as mr bean running the team championships will be a distant dream for the macca team

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