F1 » Whitmarsh: McLaren 'working tirelessly' on MP4-28

Martin Whitmarsh: It's important to remember that our MP4-28 is a new and uncompromising design that we intend to develop aggressively throughout the year

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March 09, 2013 3:47 PM

sunny. presumably that was either brundle, hill or herbert? however, on the f1 show last night, herbert and noble (autosport) both said that the bull was still the fastest. different people have different opinions, and we cannot just go by one persons opinion. we will have no idea of RACE speed until melbourne, but already merc, macca and ferrari all seem to be playing catch up. not sure who they are trying to catch up, but its hardly marussia. interestingly, red bull had the fewest changes during the course of the test. iwonder why?

whatever the result in oz, it will have to be remembered that this is only the first race of the yar, and is not normally representative.

i doubt that any one car will have an advantage all season.


March 09, 2013 5:04 PM

Richard, it wasn't Brundle neither Herbert.
Plus the one "experianced" person opinion there are the facts as happened during testing.
Maybe Red Bull will follow FERRARI and bring updates to the first race.

bob - Unregistered

March 09, 2013 6:28 PM
Last Edited 1148 days ago

McLaren have cocked up again and will be playing catch up?

Please remind me who had the fastest car at the START of last season?

Please also remind me where in the pecking order their chief rivals were at the start of the season?

EDIT by CRASH.NET! Poster attack removed.

Tealeaf - Unregistered

March 09, 2013 10:35 PM

Well Mclaren doesn't seem to be as strong as they were atelbourne last year where they were dominant, however Redbull is not as strong as some of these claims, to discredit Vettel like this just shows ignorance and natural fear that Hamilton is just not good enough, but we'll see whos strong at Melbourne, I suspect Mercedes might be a front row risk just like last year.

Firestorm - Unregistered

March 10, 2013 1:23 AM

Everyone is speaking about Red Bull being the fastest car at the start of this season. Maybe they are...but presuming that the development of their car could stall because basically they are using the same car of last year, McLaren could find an advantage over them at mid-season. As for being the slowest on straight line speed, is obvious that Red Bull is sacrifycing it for the sake of their downforce. But still they are working on the passive DDRS system for improving top speed and I heard that they had some troubles with it. I hope that they got totally lost with it as Lotus last year.


March 10, 2013 4:49 AM

DDRS or any other system switched on/off by the activation of DRS has been banned for 2013.
A pasive system switched on/off by the car speed can be used.
I do not know of anybody that has managed to make a pasive system work yet.


March 10, 2013 7:30 AM

I like to read all the speculation, but it counts for not so much , maybe it will be very close to last season, where the tyres play an enormous part into who wins races. Just as they did before. However with a lot of data- now at all the teams hands Perhaps we will get a clear front running team, and yes that may well mean its all the usual suspects. I certainly hope so !


March 10, 2013 8:17 AM

While the speculation as the result of this years tests is going on here is some facts from the past 3 years.
Fastest times results after testing in Barcelona for the past 3 years and the championship winning team/driver is well known.
Barcelona 2010 Vettel 5th fastests 1-20, 667s + 0.195s.
Barcelona 2011 Vettel 8th fastests 1-22, 933s + 1.188s.
Barcelona 2012 Vettel 11th fastests 1-23, 688s + 1.578s.
Barcelona 2013 Vettel 8th fastests 1-22, 614s +2.384s


March 10, 2013 8:56 AM
Last Edited 1147 days ago

sunny. remember a couple of years ago when there was an indication that the f duct would appear, we were discussing such a thing as speed related passive blowing of the wing? the teams should have employed us then!

but i would reckon that the use of vorticies could produce a passive action. the more speed, the greater the vortex, and the greater the blowing.

you comment about ftd just reinforces what we have been saying....testing times mean nothing.

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