F1 » ‘Old man’ Webber still fired by championship dream


Mark Webber has said that he has been aware of 'vultures' waiting to pounce on his Red Bull ride for some time, but is not ready to give it up.

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ghog

March 13, 2013 10:24 PM
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Mark Webber is a great, Brave, level headed, strong driver.

MW is is superb abassador for AUS & F1.

Hopefully there will be Karma this year for it all to come together for MW & Red Bull.

I wish him success!

FreeJack - Unregistered

March 13, 2013 10:56 PM

Helmut Marko is not "the team" and therefore his comments shouldn't be taken as a mandate from the team. Webber, as he is every year, will be ready to compete and I'm sure he's eager to give Vettel a run for his money, every race out. My prediction for this season is that the Webber haters will continue to hate on him, call him washed up and ask when he's going to retire, while he continues to be the best "number two" driver in the business and possibly challenging for the championship.

richard

March 14, 2013 7:57 AM

bogga and freejack. why do you consider anyone who does not think that webber is the greatest, is a hater?
i guess by your weird definition, then you yourselves must be vettel" haters" or alonso" haters".
i have a right to have my opinion as to the capabilities of any driver, and if i believe , as mateshitz also does, that webber is not on the same level as seb, that does not make me hate webber or anyone else.

all the drivers deserve credit, but you rate some , and dont rate others.
i certainly do not hate a driver, nor do i hate anyone. maybe you should reassess the values which you use to criticise others.

Objective

March 14, 2013 8:01 AM

The reality is that if he loses his RBR seat no other team will take him. If he wants to continue with RBR he will need to be careful that he doesn't repeat his efforts in Brazil last year. He is pretty much on notice that he is expected to put the team first and his own ambitions second.

izybluffen

March 14, 2013 10:12 AM

The problem for Webber is R&D will "always" go Seb's way. That's why Mark has been at a disadvantage since mid 2010. Full stop. Anyone that thinks this isn't the case is "trippin" Just tell me why Seb couldn't win or get pole early 2012 until Newey started sorting the indirect EBD ?? If Seb was so "great" how come he couldn't win in the STR when it was dry ??? when Mark could put Jaguars on the front row ??

izybluffen

March 14, 2013 10:24 AM

@ Richard - To your comments above. Webber fans are not fanboys for starters, nor do we state that Mark is the greatest which is the complete opposite of the "pretend Seb is not the greatest thing since sliced bread" opinion you have which disgusts me considering you are an older bloke who "has" seen "great" drivers on the track.
Remember early 2012 when you were making every excuse under the sun for Seb not winning ???? Yet got on your high horse when Newey weaved some magic ???? Mate

richard

March 14, 2013 10:43 AM

matt. first of all, i did not call supporters of webber "fanboys". secondly, sorry if i have an opinion and it disgusts you. do you think that i worry?
yes i have seen many great drivers and as i have said, many have dominated. that is just the nature of f1. doesnt mean that i either like or dislike them, but i accept it! maybe if you had been following f1 since its inception, you would have a clearer take on the vagaries of the series.
and i do not remember making every excuse under the sun to explain why vettel was not winning. i could well have said that when he was leading, his alternator failed etc, but that is not making excuses.
this thread was about webber, and i said that he has to raise his game if he wants to match vettel. funny how so many others, including the team owner are saying exactly the same.
there are a hell of a lot more comments that are dismissive of webber, but you do not attack those.
i have an opinion, but when a poster makes a personal attack on

jim crint - Unregistered

March 14, 2013 10:43 AM

You'd think Red Bull would actually want Webber to win a title, just to prove that it's the organisation that's winning, not down to the driver. Most fans, and the media, see this as a drivers championships, but the team owners, and the guys back at the factory sometimes like to think the opposite, that it's a team sport and drivers are like 'light bulbs'...just plug another one in! (Who said that?)

I'm not saying anyone here has this opinion, but I don't get this idea that drivers like Webber don't amount to much just because they're not Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel! What kind of racing would we have if we only had those three lining up in the grid every other week?

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