F1 » Heavy rain forces qualifying postponement


Persistent heavy rain showers in Melbourne have forced the postponement of the second and third sessions of qualifying for the Australian GP to Sunday morning.

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JJJ - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 3:49 PM

Because driving in the wet requires a different skillset than driving a regular dry race and finishing the race is part of that as well. To some extent driving in the dry on any particular track is something you can learn just by practise and repetition...brake here, 3rd gear there, clip apex there etc etc. In the wet though, the track is changing all the time and it becomes more about instinct, feeling how the car is moving and adapting all the time. To me, that is a real test of natural talent. I agree that this is somewhat subjective as one could also argue that being able to eke out that last tenth in the dry through practise and repitition is. Anyway, it's clear that some drivers are better in the wet than others and for a complete world championship I think it's a good thing to have a couple of wet races in a year.

JJJ - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 4:01 PM

As for the safety aspect of it all, I think it's a bad argument. It's always going to be an arbitrary thing, cause the same people who now scold the ones who say quali should have been on, are still presumably F1 fans who are ok with cars going 300 plus kph in dry conditions a few metres away from spectators behind fences. It's really just a matter of the degree to which you accept danger. The safety of the cars today is such that sitting in one may be the only way surviving falling of for instance the golden gate bridge. If you say they shouldn't run now in the wet you're pretty much saying they shouldn't have ran F1 at all until about the year 2000. It's all arbitrary and rediculous to attack people on for 'wanting to see accidents'. I just want to see the top drivers in the world in conditions that give them a chance to fully display their skills. It's what sport is about really.

John - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 6:13 PM

"To me, that is a real test of natural talent."

Do you think that Ayrton Senna was or Lewis Hamilton is lacking in "natural talent"? If that was the actual race rather than qualifying, Hamilton would have DNF'd.

John - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 6:28 PM

" I just want to see the top drivers in the world in conditions that give them a chance to fully display their skills. "

Then it would appear that Seb Vettel is the most skillful driver in the world, that Fernando Alonso is the third most skillful, and that Lewis Hamilton is only the tenth most skillful, based on the results from wet weather qualifying in Q3.

Jim Clausen

March 16, 2013 6:40 PM

I always thought F1 was run in all weather conditions. Rain or shine. Other than monsoon like conditions, I don't recall qualifying or racing called because of rain. Rain will and does alter qualifying results, as well as race results. If the stewards were trying to eliminate the natural order of things, then they are wrong. If I want to watch contrived race results, then I'll start watching NASCAR. As for it being unsafe to run qualifying, driving to conditions will alleviate the safety concerns.

uralldumb - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 6:43 PM

this had nothing to do with the water or drainage, this is just down to money, all the dumb drivers that spun off in q1 scared most the paddock and they didnt want to ruin more cars since they have to go straight to the next race, we have all seen them run in waaaaay worse conditions at this very track, if f1 is that hard up for money, 1. stop makng the wet ties
2. if its this bad maybe we could also surround the cars in rubber and keep them all in a enclosed area so no more stuff gets damaged and everyone is perfectly safe
this is supposed to be f1 get it together
and anyone who says it was too much water or not enough drainage ur dumb go back n from watch previous wet races from melbourne, twice as bad as it was yesterday

uralldumb - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 6:46 PM

this had nothing to do with the water or drainage, this is just down to money, all the dumb drivers that spun off in q1 scared most the paddock and they didnt want to ruin more cars since they have to go straight to the next race, we have all seen them run in waaaaay worse conditions at this very track, if f1 is that hard up for money, 1. stop makng the wet ties
2. if its this bad maybe we could also surround the cars in rubber and keep them all in a enclosed area so no more stuff gets damaged and everyone is perfectly safe
this is supposed to be f1 get it together
and anyone who says it was too much water or not enough drainage ur dumb go back n from watch previous wet races from melbourne, twice as bad as it was yesterday

JJJ - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 6:48 PM

@John

Senna won plenty of races in the rain including if I'm not mistaken his 1st one in the Lotus, he was regarded as a rain master, which is one of the things that his reputation is built on.

Hamilton I would say is pretty good in the rain. I haven't seen him do anything really, really special in the rain except Silverstone that one time (although Heidfeld should have won that race had BMW not messed up his tyre strategy). If you look at when he was teammates with Button it was usually the latter who took the spoils in rainy circumstances (before fanb0iz start, I'm not british and not a huge fan of either of the two just calling it as I saw it).

But you're making the argument that because Senna didn't win EVERY race he ever drove in the wet (mind you in Adelaide he was miles away in the lead at the start of the race), he was according to you not a rainmaster and therefore according to me not a natural talent...

Obviously that is a bit of a re-he-he-ach

JJJ - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 6:53 PM

"Then it would appear that Seb Vettel is the most skillful driver in the world, that Fernando Alonso is the third most skillful, and that Lewis Hamilton is only the tenth most skillful, based on the results from wet weather qualifying in Q3."

And now you've completely jumped the troll shark and are just making up very silly arguments all by yourself and I just hope on your behalve you are actually aware of that.

BMFBW - Unregistered

March 16, 2013 7:24 PM

This is why I think that they should bring back the monsoon tyres...
Adelaide 1989
Spa 1998
Etc, etc.
Monsoon tyres = racing and no cheesed-off fans! :p

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