F1 » Webber's race hurt by technical problems

Mark Webber started from second on the grid and promptly went backwards - but the team revealed after the race that his afternoon had been hit by technical gremlins.

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John - Unregistered

March 17, 2013 7:51 PM

It's not mentioned in this shoddy report, but both Red Bull cars lost telemetry, not just Mark's. This is how kooky conspiracy theories take hold.

John - Unregistered

March 17, 2013 7:53 PM

Helpful Tip of the day - When somebody makes a factually correct statement, clicking the silly little "disagree" button does not actually change anything.

Dude - Unregistered

March 17, 2013 9:47 PM

Kers affects the start. His reaction to the lights was excellent. He just didn't have the kers boost that everyone around him did. And apparently he couldn't set the clutch bite point because the ecu was out.


March 17, 2013 9:56 PM

Dude, no KERS at the start means 80 hp less.
But, if the ECU was/went out the car would have came to a stand still.
Clutch bite piont is another story, with all teams now using the two clutch padels control system clutch bite piont is not a problem for anybody.

John - Unregistered

March 17, 2013 10:05 PM

"A kinetic energy recovery system (often known simply as KERS) is an automotive system for recovering a moving vehicle's kinetic energy under braking. The recovered energy is stored in a reservoir (for example a flywheel or a battery) for later use under acceleration."

Note that word "moving". Maybe you can explain how a car sitting stationary on the grid at the start of a race has "80 hp" stored in its KERS.

Webber may have suffered from some different technical problem which impeded his start. of course.


March 17, 2013 10:11 PM
Last Edited 984 days ago

John, The Kers is FULL when they get back to the starting box on out lap. It is at their disposal when the lights go out. And its worth 80HP In addition the engine sitting idle is worth another 700HP.

prof-x - Unregistered

March 17, 2013 11:47 PM

It really depends how much power you can put to the rear wheel, if there are different output modes for the KERS power system. Not having KERS for the start of a race will have a negative effect on the start as the transmission will be at such a gear where using KERS will be beneficial before the first turn. To say KERS has no effect on a start is *****ic.

Ferrari seem to have the best setup for starting races, Mark almost always seems to be the one suffering mech and KERS failures (see last two years) KERS this, KERS that the year Vettel ran away with it, last year not so bad until Vettel and Red Bull found their way.

Given Mark's horrible starts for such a long time, its clear, VERY CLEAR, RedBull are not interested in seeing Mark lead by the first turn. He does not suck that bad, and there is only so much a driver can do before they are limited by the hardware they are sitting in.


March 18, 2013 4:42 AM

In very recent times a team was found out by the FIA of making use of the untie stall map system to memorise and mimic race starts, since than the rules has been rewritten so that all inputs will have to be made by the driver, the important things in race starts are the right amount of engine revs against the clutch bite point (kiss point) giving next to zero wheel spin (slip), when I come back I will explain how the clutch system works on a F1 car.

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