F1 » 'Raw' Webber considering quitting?


Mark Webber: I think it's very early days right now, it's very raw, obviously, and we need to work out how the team goes best forwards from here

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John - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:47 PM

"What is your source for this information?"

The lap time data for the two drivers by race lap. It shows lap times for both drivers dropping as they raced each other from that final pit stop onwards. Webber never slowed down, or even maintained his pace. Both he and Vettel cut faster and faster laps, starting at the same time.

If Vettel was racing while Webber was fuel saving, Vettel would not have finished just 4 secs in front.

If Webber had "turned down his engine" that could not have happen.

John - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:50 PM

"John, why do you feel the need to yell?"

I told you why.

"Sorry to shout, but some of you can't seem to listen."

"I would speculate you are yelling because you are trying to force a point that simply isn't true."

You can lead an "f1 fan" to reality, but you can't make him imbibe it.

Angelina - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:50 PM

"The lap time data for the two drivers by race lap"
"If Vettel was racing..."
"If Webber had..."

So basically, its just pure speculation on your part. You have no idea whether Mark did or did not turn down his engine.

Simo - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:51 PM

John, compare the pace at which DRS assisted Sebastian earlier in the race to the pace at which DRS assisted him when he executed the pass. Seb caught mark rapidly from a long way back on the straight.

The only explanation is that Marks engine was not running at top speed down the straight and he was not using KERS. Both are measures employed to improve longevity of the engines.

It was not fuel saving it was engine saving because they only have 8, there is a difference.

Simo - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:53 PM

"You can lead an "f1 fan" to reality, but you can't make him imbibe it. "

I would suggest John is just back doing some more trolling or he doesn't understand how hard it is to get 8 engines through a whole season.

Joel matherson - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:54 PM

The above poster doesnt know what he is talking about. Weber was much faster than Vettel this race. Because they were in the one / two position so in order to preserve tyres and engines both were asked to ease off and maintain position till the end. Webber turn his engine down and slowed up as ordered whereby Vettel didnt obey used that decreases i marks performance to catch up and pass. And the team always covers for precious Vettel. Mark should leave and go to a team that shows more respect. I pity the next driver who has to partner with a self absorbed primadonna like Vettel cause they will never get a fair deal. One of the reasons Weber was resigned instead of Hamilton was because he was such a gentleman he was an easy pushover, Hamilton would demand Vettel to be controlled and the unrest you see in the team is nothing compared to what it would be with any other second driver.

John - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:54 PM

"It's a fact of the sport that the teams need to conserve their engines. One of the ways they do this is by turning them down, lowering max revs, changed throttle map etc."

It is also a fact of the sport that neither Vettel nor Webber "turned down" their engines. You can still sling mud at Vettel and say that Webber did not turn down his engine because Vettel dd not turn down his. But the claim that Webber turned down his engine is just factually false.

John - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:58 PM

"So basically, its just pure speculation on your part."

How is lap time data "pure speculation"?

"You have no idea whether Mark did or did not turn down his engine. "

No, you numbskull, I know for a certainty that he did not "turn down his engine".

f you know of a way in which a driver who has "turned down his engine" can cut identical lap times to a driver in an identical car who has not done so, you're a lot smarter than Adrian Newey.

Angelina - Unregistered

March 24, 2013 11:59 PM

"But the claim that Webber turned down his engine is just factually false."

No it isn't. You still haven't provided any evidence to support this as "factually false".

Simo - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:01 AM

"It is also a fact of the sport that neither Vettel nor Webber "turned down" their engines. "

I would suggest if that were the case the team would have been just as upset with Mark at the end yet somehow they were not. The teams get telemetry back from the car that tells them if the driver has done what they ask.

It's ok if you don't know these things, don't be afraid to ask. There are plenty of people around with some knowledge of the sport that can share lots of insights with you.

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