F1 » 'Raw' Webber considering quitting?

Mark Webber: I think it's very early days right now, it's very raw, obviously, and we need to work out how the team goes best forwards from here

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John - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:14 AM

"All you have proven is that Vettel and Webber had decreasing, but similar times. You have no evidence for engine modes."

You are the one claiming different engine modes. The race data indicates identical modes. if you have any evidence for different engine modes, by all means ....

Alex - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:17 AM


i watched the entire race. Seb was only 4s down before Mark pitted @ 43 lap. And as i had said earlier, they were neck to neck when Mark was racing out of the pit lane.

If you did not watch the race and just read the comments and articles online, you would think that Mark was cruising ahead comfortably and Seb just sneaked out to steal his win.

Angelina - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:19 AM

You are a funny one John. You are the one that made the statement about different engine modes being "factually false". The burden of proof is on you. You now have to back up these statements

John - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:20 AM

"From the official F1 website, Webbers final lap was a 1:43:3 Vettels was a 1:45:5. "

I said fastest lap, not final lap. FASTEST lap. Not FINAL lap.

"Not sure where you get your figures from"

If you have no source of info on such basic matters, why are you here pretending to be some sort of F1 expert?

"RBR are on record as to what happened with the cars"

More lies.

Angelina - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:22 AM

"Vettels fastest lap was a 1:40.445. Webbers, a 1:49.685" - John

"From the official F1 website, Webbers final lap was a 1:43:3 Vettels was a 1:45:5"

Just when I thought you were getting a hold of this "facts" business.

Simo - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:23 AM

Hi Alex

I too watched the entire race thanks. You'll note that after Webber exited the pits he managed to stay in front. Then he did pull away from Vettel before the pass was executed.

If you view a replay of the pass you'll notice how far back Vettel managed to come at Webber on the straight with DRS enabled.

If you look at earlier laps where both cars were on full power Vettel was unable to make up anywhere near as much ground under DRS.

If you combine this with the statements from RBR, Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel I'm comfortable with the position I've taken on this. Sorry if you feel me disagreeing somehow indicates I didn't even watch the race...

Tommo - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:23 AM

I think what a lot of "observers" here are taking out of context or not putting in to context is that this was a more direct order as any due to the high degradation the rb9 was showing for this track. there was a higher chance than any other track(thus fark that the cars could finish well below where they wanted to if they chose to chase each other. if the track were different then no doubt the call would have been different. Simply RB wanted to finish 1-2 on a notoriously RB unfriendly track. I would say any other track would have been fine but race 2 is till early days so the most points grabbed the earliest, the better. Using Marks moments when he did not listen to teams orders were far removed form a new design car and different tyres. back then there were no unkwons and the RB8 was the dominant car. one thing i truly disagree was the pass on mark on thr giht which could have taken both cars out had Seb clipped that wall. Good race though.

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