F1 » HAVE YOUR SAY: Sebastian Vettel - right or wrong?


The outcome of the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix looks set to divide opinion on Sebastian Vettel, but which side of the fence are you on?

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David - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:27 AM

There's a bit of confusion about "team orders".

In the bad old days we saw saw "team orders" being used to allow a team's No. 1 driver to pass the No. 2 driver when the No. 2 driver was in a leading position. Never a good look and not good for F1.

The team orders given by Red Bull in the race yesterday were about preserving engine life when the team was in a 1-2 winning position and not being challenged by the following cars.

In this situation it is completely reasonable for the team to instruct drivers early in the season to turn down the engine to preserve it for future races, and this was the instruction that Webber had complied with, on the understanding that he and his "team-mate" weren't racing for position.

In 2014 with only 5 engines for the season there will be more of this. No team will want to be in a position where they can't contest the last 1 or 2 races of the season because an aggressive driver has used up all 5 engines.

McRocket - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:33 AM

I have said this before - Vettel is a great winner. Funny, charming, intelligent.

And he has not tasted losing much since '09.

But when he has, he does not seem to take it so well.

Like in Germany last year after passing Button illegally. After the race he whined, complained and acted rather childish.

Same today - but this time it was his actions not his words.

I suspect Vettel (at this stage of his career) is a poor, rather foolish-acting loser.

And yesterday only reinforces that opinion.

richard

March 25, 2013 10:40 AM

matt. and remember when webber pulled exactly the same stunt on vettel? it works both ways.

i must admit that i am glad that we saw two drivers going head to head. after all, that is what RACING is all about.

if rbr decides that disciplinary action is required, that is up to them, but they did not discipline mark when he did the same so i suppose that a good talking to will be the only penalty.

team orders are riiculous at any time, but even more so at the beginning of the season.

richard

March 25, 2013 10:40 AM

matt. and remember when webber pulled exactly the same stunt on vettel? it works both ways.

i must admit that i am glad that we saw two drivers going head to head. after all, that is what RACING is all about.

if rbr decides that disciplinary action is required, that is up to them, but they did not discipline mark when he did the same so i suppose that a good talking to will be the only penalty.

team orders are riiculous at any time, but even more so at the beginning of the season.

Doobery Diddle - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:51 AM

One particular moment in the race I thought both drivers were wrong was when Vettel went to overtake Webber into turn one, but webber squeezed him to the pit wall. If a car had been leaving the pits at that moment, the whole scene could have been very nasty, not to mention the fact that racing side by side at nigh on 200 mph closing in on a concrete wall is a dangerous past time - vettel should have taken his boot out of the footwell a little and Webber should never, ever have squeezed that hard. They should have their heads knocked together for that.

shakennstirred

March 25, 2013 10:52 AM
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@david
the 5 engine rule doesn't mean after 5 engines you are out, you can use a 6th engine but get a 10 place grid penalty, so if the driver gets poll he will start 10th, which isn't much of a penalty to be honest

Nichole - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:53 AM

Webber the whistleblower always griping. Be a man and admit you can't beat Seb. Even nico was faster than you at williams, he must hate Germans, so hard to beat mate.
Maybe you could do the same .to Seb don't listen to team orders. I thought it.was banned.

WTkFox - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:53 AM

The main issue in the spotlight isn't about the race result, it is about trust. The level of trust was bearable at the best of times. In the race, Webber trusted Vettel to abide with the team's wishes as he was given the same message by the team.
It is easy to try and understand what is going through the minds of both drivers, but in summary, one feels completely betrayed and the other is a questionable place.

If you look at the passing, it came to the point where almost both cars seem like they were going to crash out. For the team, there was no gain and everything to lose.

It should of not happened and yet, it has. Now the unstable harmony between team-mates is shattered and maybe un-salvageable.

Dick Carpenter - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:57 AM

Both cars could have crashed out of the
race!
Seb, you are not Shcuey! You have pro
ved you are one of the "greats" don't
ruin your reputation.
Mark should have decked you and you
know the reason why?

aeaventures - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 10:57 AM

The reality is Vettel is now 16 points in front in the championship and by seasons end those extra few point for winning yesterday may make the difference, Webber is deluding himself if he really feels he can kick back this early in a season and accept a win and he shoudnt have, he should have had his game on face and just got on with the buisiness of winning by being quickest. Vettel? aplogising imediatly afterwards meant Webber should have knocked him down and it would have been sorted!!

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