F1 » HAVE YOUR SAY: Sebastian Vettel - right or wrong?

The outcome of the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix looks set to divide opinion on Sebastian Vettel, but which side of the fence are you on?

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Kevin - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:43 PM

Fake passing and power aides, fake crap tire strategies that make the last 15 laps a boring parade, rules restrictions on innovation, and now everyone supports team orders that stop racing between team mates?... I'm done with F1, once and for all. This is the same phony baloney that wrecked CART, Indy car, and NASCAR. Looks like its also infecting Ausie V8 Super cars as well... pandering to ignorant fans to advance entertainment value over real racing is disgusting. What's next - half time stunt drivers, or maybe parachute exhibitions? Or, maybe "debris" yellow flags to pull the field up tight for the last 5 laps? Logging off now before this charade becomes even more stupid.

Rtb - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:45 PM

If a pits top man decided to go against team orders and not tighten a wheel nut properly on one of sebastien wheels how would that pan out. If redbull( Horner) had nads then appropriate discipline should occur. I race ban and give Buemi a seat for the next race

Randy Westwood - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:46 PM

They are racing car drivers. Get a grip.
Webber did it to Vettel before.
Team orders ? Second race of the season.
Talk sense.
Vettel - no case to answer.
One of them will be fighting for the title come the end of the year - and it won't be the aussie fella.

steve - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:49 PM


Jason B - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:49 PM

I'm sorry, but team orders are necessary. The engineers and team principals are like coaches keeping their players focused on the TEAM effort, not your OWN EGO.

Without team orders, more drivers would take unnecessary risks like Seb did. Worse yet, you can have an incident worse than Turkey 2010 where drivers score nothing at all and the TEAM gets nothing as well (except for two broken cars and in-fighting between drivers).

Yes, there's a Driver's Championship, but on the whole, you need to do what's best for the team. The days of unlimited engines and transmissions are over. To finish first, you must first finish, right? The engines are reliable because they're turned down toward the end of the race. Only time will tell how Seb's engine will fare when it's used again. It was quite hot and humid in Sepang.

Unless the driver built the car and is funding the entry, he needs to do what he's told by the team he's driving for.

fritz - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 12:52 PM

the constant qualifier in the entire conversation is mark webber the notoriously unjustifiable blocker. the conversation as to how f1 got to the point where this particular scenario of 'detuning' the performance of a race car during green flag racing and the unintended consequences and limitations which that aspect imposes on the race may deserve more debate or control. But, in the end team orders are still alleged to be illegal and, irrespective of any disingenuous attempt to dodge that rule, the scenario Red Bull laid out to its drivers absolutely constituted a pre-determined finishing order for their team. Given the circumstances that red bull issued illegal orders tends to favor Seb. While it may seem underhanded to take advantage of the knowledge that the leader had detuned his car, it was not Seb who put the scenario into motion, it was not Seb who required illegal behavior in order to fulfill the scenario red bull literally manuactured and it was Seb who had the whole sleazy

David Fernandes - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 1:01 PM

Yes, Vettel was wrong. Indeed F1 racing is wrong! This is the modern F1 procession.

Sadly, F1 today is very much a team sport and there were teams orders. But I put the blame on the regulations and tyres. Gone is the true racing.

The is too much emphasis on aero... reduce the front wings, stop the bodywork aft of the cockpit, make tyres that will last the full race and we should see F1 return to the glory days of real motor racing.

Kevin Wickins - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 1:04 PM

Vettel is now seen as being in the same catergory as Schumacher..not in racing terms but in lies, cheating and subterfuge.

As Mark Weber has said he will get protection particulary by Marko as Vettel is his "Golden Child"

Kevin Wickins


March 25, 2013 1:07 PM

Here is a good example of a gentleman's agreement. Mika Hakkinen and David Coulthard had agreed in the first race of 1998 that whoever gets to the 1st corner wins the race in Australia. Mika got there and David stuck to his word after Mika made a mistake and went to the Pit Lane and let Mika through near the closing laps. DC stuck to the bargain like a gentleman. If there was an agreement between both Red Bull drivers which Christian Horner and everyone in the Red Bull garage were aware of it, then obviously Vettel broke it. A deal is a deal. No ends, if or buts.

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