F1 » Watson: Red Bull needs to suspend Vettel

Sebastian Vettel should not be allowed to get away with disobeying team orders, according to F1 veteran John Watson.

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NubeF1 - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 8:02 AM

@sean. agree completely with your comment about the bigger issue of sponsor unrest. everyone looking within the team when external pressure will almost be unbearable. also think the race ban is a way too stupid idea as it not only penalises the driver but the whole entire team.

Ptolemy - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 8:38 AM

If Vettel should be suspended, then Alonso should as well. Alonso disregarded team orders when they told him to pit for a new wing. Alonso ingnored them and just past the pit entry his front wing exploded, putting himself and Mark Webber in great danger. If it would have happened at the end of the straightaway, then we could have had our new death in F1 since Senna's passing.
Now why isn't anyone up in arms about this MORE IMPORTANT issue?
Its a Vettel witchhunt! Let 'em have some more in China Seb!


March 26, 2013 8:48 AM

I believe that contractually RBR has to run two cars at each Grand Prix so they would need to put another driver in the car. This might also help to get some points towards the constructors championship but they don't really have anyone suitable.


March 26, 2013 8:50 AM
Last Edited 927 days ago

matt . what a silly and agressive post.
and for your info, in turkey, webber did in fact go on to admit that he knew seb was faster, knew that seb was inside him, but decided not to give him room........ so you really need to get your facts right before you criticise and are abusive about others.

oh, and by the way. how do you know that seb did not turn down his engine map. do you have access to the telemetry? webber sort of kept up with him, at around the same pace as before, so it would appear that webber did not turn down his either.

cassius clay - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 8:59 AM

Shame F1 isnt like Nascar, as a good fist fight would have topped this story off, and there would have been an overall winner once the fisticuffs had finished......seconds out...round 3!!


March 26, 2013 9:01 AM

Vettel deserves a harsh punishment for what he did, but LOL at everybody thinking the team is actually going to make him sit out a race. He is their golden boy and as long as he is their driver, he could get away even with a murder. What I can do is to wish him experience the most miserable season possible :)

rolf harris - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 9:13 AM

why on earth do you keep on about knowing more than anyone, when its pretty obvious as its been stated the team wanted no fight after the last stops. Vettel took the opportunity to close Webber down when Mark was not driving hard, when Webber had the upper hand by outdriving Seb in the damp and jumping him, and then keeping a 4 sec gap between them. As you keep saying Fact, Webber did the better job , so look at the lap times if you are too blind to listen. Vettel closed him down by ignoring the team requests. It needed Braun on the pit wall not Horner to keep control of something that is now very damaged. You must be some kind of Mind Reader Richard to continually have a better opinion than anyone else, and obviously know MORE than anyone else who writes here. Its a shame you cant drive, as I am sure you would be better than Vettel by your remarks.......


March 26, 2013 9:24 AM

@ Richard - You're dreaming mate.

80% of the world knew Turkey was Vettel's fault. The other 20% were fanboys.
You need to go to spec savers if Mark didn't give enough room. If there wasn't Seb would never have got along side hey ? Also Webber was also in fuel save mode which you know damn well and the same thing happened on this stunt. Show me proof Mark admitted he didn't give enough room.
I'll show you proof Seb lied and admitted to not following orders, well I don't need to because it's everywhere !!!

You are going to defend Seb no matter what and continue to blow smoke and mirrors to no avail.

Go you hardest, you cant keep this charade up when Seb has already admitted he is in the wrong and backtracked on it.


March 26, 2013 10:08 AM

matt. ok ok. you now do not even believe your own countryman, despite his public utterances, and i think he even said it in his book. are you now accusing webber of lying?

and if you read sebs statement, he apologised for messing up, and i have no problem with that, but you and other posters are making up "facts" to suit your arguments. none of us have the full facts, so there is little point going on and on about a situation until the full facts are disclosed. it is all a matter for rbr to sort out, and i am sure that they will do so after reviewing everything, including radio messages, telemetry etc.

but there is an interesting aside to the race. match fixing is illegal, be it cricket, football etc. horse race fixing is illegal. all have had enquiries and punishments. so surely f1 race fixing should now also be investigated and stamped out?


March 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Last Edited 927 days ago

horner stated 'do you really think seb would have given the place back if we had asked him to', strange thing for a so called 'team principal' to say, perhaps he didn't think Seb would hold station in the first instance either. im of the opinion that all the drivers know their individual chain of command within their teams, similar to the Mercedes team drivers knowing the chain of command. I think christian horner is too much a friend of both drivers, Ross Brawn at Mercedes on the other hand . . .

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