F1 » Brundle: Red Bull has a huge problem

Former drivers weigh on the debate over team orders at Red Bull Racing following the controversial Malaysian Grand Prix.

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dimitris - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 4:38 PM

Red Bull has had this problem for some time, only now it came to the surface in a dramatic fashion. It has been brewing since Turkey 2010. On numerous occasions last year Mark would give a very hard time and delay Sebastian during races, capped with the event in Brazil where he almost pushed Vettel into the wall, and his later public comment that Alonso deserved the 2012 championship. It was to be expected that Vettel would get his revenge when the time came, and I suppose they have no respect for each other. I believe the only reason Mark's contract was renewed for 2013 was because the drink company sells a lot of drinks in Australia. Mark is in a no-win situation because obviously Vettel cannot be punished. He should have taken the Ferrari offer.

oldtimer - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 4:44 PM

Both drivers know where they stand in the pecking order.
Webber has the option of accepting it or not and Vettel does'nt have to worry because he is there for the long term. I don't believe Webbers going to throw in the towel so he has to make up his mind, drive for the team or drive for himself with all that that means, they've collided before and we may just see a few more as it's Webbers last year at Redbull.

FreeJack - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 5:32 PM

"Sorry" doesn't mean crap. Webber doesn't want an apology, he wants the points and the grand prix victory that he EARNED with his drive. People keep saying, "Well, Vettel apologized." Who cares? If someone stole $100 out of your wallet, didn't return it but said "Sorry," would you be satisfied with that?

Alex - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 6:06 PM

Mark went in for his last pit stop 4s ahead of Seb on lap 43. As Mark came out, the two grappled wheel to wheel through the first 5 corners for 2 consecutive laps, before Vettel got decisively in front. The sequence of events show that all the talk about Mark being unawares just doesn't add up. Mark was fully aware that Seb (who had better tyres and was on his tail) is going to race him.

Seb was on a different tyre strategy, which was to race flat out at the end of the race with his mediums. He played the early stop tactic at the final pit visit, and this gave him an advantage. He obeyed team order earlier in the race, and did not attack Mark when Mark was unusually slow and backed Vettel into Hamilton. We all know how this race tactic is often deployed to wear down your competitor's tyres. And Seb, being no fool, was fuming!

Given how the race has turned out at that juncture, i can understand how Vettel might feel insisting on pre-race team order is unfair to him. Surely ne


March 25, 2013 6:06 PM

re: "Brundle: Red Bull has a huge problem"

but the problem to F1 sees the redbull row pale in comparison.

the time has come for bernie and the FIA to evolve the championship to reflect the contributions of BOTH drivers. either the driver's title must be done away with leaving only the constructors...? or the driver's title must be awarded 2 both men so they are encouraged to work... wait for it... as a TEAM.

BREAKING NEWS...! the "enemy" is in the other garages down pit lane... it isn't the soldier holding a rifle hunkered down next to you in the foxhole. common sense should've already told us this. s1 has spoken.

Alex - Unregistered

March 25, 2013 6:13 PM


Surely neither Mark nor Horner can expect Seb to behave like an obedient school boy.

Even technical analyst Gary Anderson alluded that , "Webber did try to squeeze him into the pit wall when Vettel was coming up to pass him with the DRS overtaking aid. So Sebastian probably saw a bit of red mist and went for it. " Can't be on cruising mode when you do that, right? If i were Vettel, i would think this is racing fair and square. I can't help but wonder when exactly did Webber turned down his engine?

I watched all the races last year. Webber isn't in a position to play the victim. He has put himself before the team too many times.

Horner should have allow them to race on, since nearest rivals were no longer a threat and these two are experienced F1 who can sure race clean, like Schumy and Kimi @ Interlagos 2012

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