F1 » Brundle: Red Bull has a huge problem

Former drivers weigh on the debate over team orders at Red Bull Racing following the controversial Malaysian Grand Prix.

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Mattias - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 3:06 AM

"Now that team orders are a legitimate..."

Dont understand why they banned it in the first place. "Team Orders" are basically just team instructions. If a dog cannot follow the instruction of his master, then he is useless and should be given away. A slower car by a slower team should teach Vettel the word "Humility". Some here say that Redbull would be nowhere without Vettel. Well that really is a foolish statement issued by foolish fans. Without the teams any driver would be none existent! The reason they could even race each other while living a luxurious lifestyle is because of the teams. Vettel should be banned three races if you asked me. And Helmut Marko should go as well. Or them both will ruin the team.

John - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 3:15 AM

"Now that team orders are a legitimate part of the rule book, a clear failure to comply with team orders should be considered as serious a transgression as failing to comply with a marshall or other race official."


So, how many races should Webber be suspended for as punishment for his multiple violations of team orders over the years?

John - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 3:19 AM

In spite of what the imbeciles posting here seem to think, breaking team orders is a common occurrence by many different drivers in many different teams.

djnr - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 3:29 AM

When a 3x champ says "get mark out of the way. he's too slow" he means it. erhem " uh, sorry mark but um well your just a tad slow and have had 11years & proved little, wouldn't mind turning your engine down then sulking after the race would you?"

Carmen - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 3:42 AM

He is a three time champion and he should be the number one. Who cares what his personality is like. Webber has had the same chances and has never proven to be a winner or a champion.

Jolyon Smith - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 3:57 AM

@John... when levelling insults around here you should be careful.

Only an imbecile would consider ignoring a team order when team orders were not part of the rules and were in fact technically forbidden, as somehow comparable let alone equivalent to the same situation when team orders have been officially ratified in the sports regulations.

I don't like what Rosberg had to do and far prefer the "racing spirit" of what Vettel did, but ONLY when that racing spirit is being matched against an equally unleashed racing spirit.

Allowing one driver to race in violation of an order and gaining an advantage over a driver who is curbing their racing instinct in order to comply is not only unfair, it's tantamount to cheating.

Vettel screwed his race by making the wrong call to transition from inter's to slicks. Webber got that call right, and only ended up in a position where he might lose the lead because he was told he didn't have to protect it.

Whatever talents Vettel might have, none o

Sean - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 4:11 AM

Personally, I enjoyed the fact that there was some proper racing action for once. It was exciting and surely is what racing is all about? The fact that Vettel muscled his way through and Webber did his best to keep the German at bay, was great, if only Rosberg ran his race the same way, what a Malaysian Grand Prix it would have been.

We dont go karting with friends and team mates to follow them around, we go karting to race, to get the satisfaction and glory of ending up in front and on the top step. Why can't F1 embrace what is essentially the fundamentals of racing, especially when we as present and future racers, learn our craft on the karting circuit.

We dont watch F1 because we want a predictable outcome. Last season and hopefully the rest of this season will be unpredictable and throw some surprises our way and make the viewing experience truly entertaining.

Tony - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 4:18 AM

Why not let Webber at least have the self satisfaction of dealing with the situation the good old fashoined Aussie way...lock them both in a room and tell them the one that comes out conscious is the winner...we all know who that would be...Vettel wouldn't knock the skin off a custard.

I'm not one to normally condone violence but in this instance the spoilt little brat needs a good smack in the mouth.

Tom - Unregistered

March 26, 2013 7:54 AM

Every team has a # 1. And for Red Bull its Vettel. He won 3 championships for them. Webber had the same car and could not make it. So he should be happy to sit in a Red Bull F1 and support Vettel. But he himself is not really a team player. So he should not complain. And if he does not like it Horner may probably agree and let him change to another team. And everybody is happy. May be Webber can try to compete with Alonso in a team. Then we will see how good he really is as a team player.....

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