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Christian Horner: Mark knows there was no conspiracy within the team

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Tom - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 5:50 PM

At this rate F1 will soon be an automotive version of Championship Wrestling. Completely rehearsed, staged, and nearly as boring as Nascar.

FreeJack - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 6:12 PM

Cool...I guessed that the Multi 21 was a finishing order instruction, by the way Webber said it to Vettel immediately after the race. Neat to find out I guessed right hehe... :)

FreeJack - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 6:14 PM

And by the way, KimiFan...Webber said very clearly in the driver's stand interview that he turned down his engines. There would be no reason for him to give up so much ground to Vettel, so quickly, if he hadn't. The guy had led the entire race and was on a fresh set of tires.

richard

March 29, 2013 6:15 PM

rw. have another look at the lap charts. seb was NEVER 15 secs behind webber, other than when he was stopped in the pits. he was 5.7 secs behind, and then webber lost 2.5 secs in his pitstop, and seb was putting in faster laps.
and also look at the charts, webber , once passed was putting in faster laps than seb. all this with a turned down engine? amazing.
i also looked at the radio messages, and nowhere was seb told to fall behind webber. he was told not to use kers. i dont know if he did or didnt. and then i looked at the articles and found that a number of other teams were also openly using team orders, including williams at oz, where bottas got the "maldo is faster than you" message. i have already stated that i have seen horners recent explanation of what multi 21 meant, and the fact that it was shown on dash, not by radio.
as i have said, only rbr have the full facts, and nothing that has been revealed changes my opinion that vettel was perfectly right to go for the l

FreeJack - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 6:24 PM

Richard, when Vettel himself issues public apologies to the entire team, as well as profuse apologies to Webber, I have a hard time understanding how you feel he was perfectly in the right to take advantage of the situation and race for the win, when Webber expected that he would hold his position in 2nd. Webber stated that he had turned down his engines, after he secured his position coming out of the final pit stop. The gap between Vettel and Webber grew almost every single lap, from his pass till the finish (except the final lap, because of the time lost zig-zagging across the finish line). Webber was clearly NOT turning faster laps than Vettel after the pass...I don't know how you can type that with a straight face.

FreeJack - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 6:26 PM

In fact, after the pass Webber lost almost a second a lap to Vettel. After being able to open up a substantial gap after Vettel's "Get him out of the way, he's too slow" comment (whereupon his engineers told him what his lap target was, and he started hitting it), I have a hard time understanding how anyone would think that he could start losing a second a lap on fresh tires, which were (if memory serves) the harder compound that he preferred.

I know your long history as a Vettel fan, but this is getting a little ridiculous.

RW - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 6:53 PM

@richard
I think you need new glasses or a lecture about how to read graphs. Please ask someone first for help instead of looking like a total ignorant. There is not much to quarrel about when you have numbers in front of you unless you're trying to bend the reality and substitute it with your own. :)

John - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 7:05 PM

"Webber said very clearly in the driver's stand interview that he turned down his engines. There would be no reason for him to give up so much ground to Vettel, so quickly, if he hadn't. The guy had led the entire race and was on a fresh set of tires"


He did not give up any ground, and both drivers were on fresh tyres.

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