F1 » Horner: Webber will race in China, won’t quit F1

Christian Horner: Mark knows there was no conspiracy within the team

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John - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 8:51 PM

When you have finished making up silly little names to insult other posters here, maybe you can answer one simple little question which nobody else here have been able to answer.

When and where did Mark Webber ever say that he 'turned down his engine" and that Vettel did not?

Pay attention to that little word "and". You have to meet both conditions.

John - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 8:54 PM

If that's too difficult for you to answer - and I know it will be - you can take a stab at answering some other unanswered questions, such as "What protection has Seb received which Mark has not?" and "What punishment has Mark received for his prior violations of team orders?"


March 29, 2013 9:34 PM

john. what a lot appear to be missing is when webber is supposed to have turned down his engine. ONLY rbr know this, despite all the comments here.
the comment made is that webber turned engine down AFTER the pit stop. if that is the case, it could hardly have been turned down as he exited the pit with vettel alongside. so it must (if at all) been done after the tussle, although lap times refute this.

f1 rules. seb apologised for messing up, NOT for disobeying an instruction. big difference. but i guess that when he got out of the car and found that he (like webber before) had not been clear on the instruction, his reaction would be to say sorry. at least he was man enough to admit he messed up, something which webber had not done, in similar circumstances.

pukka - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 11:56 PM

Webber will race but Horner has to stop coming up with excuses and just admit they favour Vettel and get on with it. Be a man instead of a liar.

Chris Smith - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 12:31 AM

This is all non sense. The team was constantly aware that Seb was closing in on Webber. They had 3 to 4 laps before the gap narrowed down to 0.5 sec. As Seb reached closer and closer, they could have asked Webber to up his game. Or maybe Webber's race engineer tried but couldnt. (which wouldnt be surprising since history clearly shows Seb faster than Webber 80% of the time) . lets never forget, Webber did not let him pass easily. Seb was almost pushed to the wall. If webber was cruising and knew Seb is closing in, he should either start racing, or leave way. To me both drivers were clearly unprofessional, but Im happy to see the race this way rather than a procession.

should leave - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 2:38 AM

webber should leave and go have fun somewhere else.

his boss won't do anything.
his teammate is the problem.
the "owner" of F1, bernie, has publicly come out against him.
half the fanbase blames mark.

what is the point of staying where you aren't welcome.

mark has fans worldwide, he seems to be welcome pretty much anywhere in the world except his own team.

get out before the toxic environment makes you toxic.

rob01 - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 2:43 AM

Mark would prefer to stay and make Sebs life a living he ll.
Similar to the last three. They hate each other. And Red Bull has NO control over either of them. They rule a VERY loose ship.

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