F1 » Ecclestone: Vettel correct to ignore team orders


Bernie Ecclestone: I always say, show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. Sebastian is not a loser. Sebastian is a winner

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107SS2009

March 30, 2013 10:10 PM

Lap 28, pit to Vettel, told to keep gap to Webber at three seconds, Vettel to pits, “we have to get him (Webber) out of the way, he is too slow” pits to Vettel, “Sabastian be patent”.
Lap 46, Vettel makes the pass stick, Horner over the radio “this is silly now Seb”.
Vettel crosses the line (takes the flag, Vettel told over the radio “there will be some explaining to do”.

130R - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 11:44 PM

@107SS2009 Yes that's correct but my point was that they told Vettel to hold the gap but they didn't tell him that Mark's engine was turned down. He intended to disobey the order but probably didn't realize he was racing Mark while his engine was turned down. That's probably why he looked a bit shocked after Mark told him "Multi 21 Seb, Multi 21".

Fernandabulous

March 31, 2013 2:19 AM

Red Bull have admitted that world champion
Sebastian Vettel was not told to cut his engine
power to the same level as Mark Webber at the
end of last weekend's Malaysian Grand Prix.
But the team insist they had not favoured Vettel
above his Australian team-mate or that they were
happy to see the German ignore orders and
snatch victory from Webber.
. . .
Mail Online

130R - Unregistered

March 31, 2013 4:06 AM

Well if that article is true then it seems to suggest that the incident was mostly the teams fault as I was suggesting in my previous posts. I mean they brought Vettel out right behind Mark and they didn't really try very hard to stop Vettel from overtaking nor did they even make an attempt to get Vettel to give back the position. I would say that Webber should leave that team but I don't think there's anywhere worthwhile for him to go. He deserves better. I would also like to think that Vettel would give back a race win to Mark but I don't see that happening.

107SS2009

March 31, 2013 8:53 AM

Peter D, there is no way any of Bernie's employees will take the risk of doing that.
Such things only happen in certain places of employment because the offender is in a position that he can calculate/weigh up the gain and the loss of such a risk.
Real serous places of work eliminate completely the chances of an employee being in a position to weigh up any gains by taking such risks.

richard

March 31, 2013 4:26 PM

sunny. glad to see that what i have been saying, is turni ng out correct! incidentally, you left out the instruction to webber on lap 48...... hold the gap!

still no proof that webber was told to turn down his engine either! his lap times show that he was running full power.

spaul40 - Unregistered

March 31, 2013 4:44 PM

Bernie: You are NOT the team owner and you do NOT pay the wages of Seb or the other 600 members of the team. Stay out of it for once. You do NOT belong in this conversation.

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