F1 » Stewart: Hamilton can be champion

Sir Jackie Stewart says he feels Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes could emerge as challengers for the 2013 F1 title

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April 07, 2013 6:32 AM

John, re your post “@so, in a way I am correct”, sorry to say, but I cannot agree, facts show you are far off the mark.
In my time following the sports I have seen world championships being won while not having the best car (not the best car in whichever angle one cares to look at it/interpret it).
But the above achievements belong to a few which are called greats because they were heads and shoulders above the rest at their time.
Two examples which will never be extinguished from memory are Fangio/250F Maseratti and Schumacher/Benetton, these two won championships with a car which was far from the best.

jim crint - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 8:42 AM

Franco , 'Interlagos was his...'!! I seem to recall Lewis was in the process of being overtaken by a force India at the time he was taken out in Brazil. Ok, so Nico lost it, but he wasn't quickest on the day. He'd already been overtaken by Jenson, who's to say that wouldn't have happened again.

I don't see a lot of HATE for Hamilton. A lot of comments against Lewis are usually attempts to calm down certain of his fans who overinflate his abilities and genuinely do HATE other drivers, notably Button, who had the temerity to match and even beat Lewis!

As for this being a golden age of F1, I quite agree, but this boring narrative that revolves around those four drivers and doesn't give credit to the likes of Button, Massa, Webber & Rosberg, all of whom could win WDCs (one already has, one almost did) just shows a narrow bias IMHO.

John - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 4:51 PM

What I said was "By definition the car which wins the WDC is commonly called "the best car". So yes, by that definition you cannot win the WDC without "the best car".

You're not responding to that at all.

As for 1994/95, the Williams car were faster, but they were also unreliable and hard to drive. Fastest is not always the same thing as "best" - the McLarens were clearly the fastest cars of 2012 but I doubt if you'll say that Vettel won the WDC in "not the best car". Or will you surprise me?

John - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 5:00 PM

"give credit to the likes of Button, Massa, Webber & Rosberg"

Rosberg - still an unknown quantity. We'll know more after this season.

Button - only won his WDC with a big gap in technical superiority.

Webber - had the WDC in his grasp, thanks to Vettels' mechanical problems, and then threw it away.

Massa - was a potential great prior to his accident, but has been a shadow of himself since then..

All above average drivers, but not "great".


April 07, 2013 6:23 PM

john. sunny may well reply to you, but i said before, and i re iterate...vettel won the wdc in 2010 and 2012, in a car that was not the best, or even fastest. but when you compare him to his teammate, you will see that it is down to the driver as well. an average driver can win in the fastest car ...button/brawn, and a good driver can win in an average car. you need to have one of these factors, together with reliability, to win the wdc.

John - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 6:49 PM

"vettel won the wdc in 2010 and 2012, in a car that was not the best, or even fastest."

It was clearly the fastest in 2010. I don't know about "the best" - it was also quite unreliable, as many Newey cars are.

I think the RB8 was a distinctly unexceptional car. Nonetheless there is a convention that any car which wins the WDC and WCC is thereby "the best".


April 07, 2013 7:59 PM

John, Yes I was responding to all you said, by just repeating what you wrote you are the one not responding to the facts I wrote namely that (Yes, not only a championship can be won without having the best car but it has been done by the true greats).
The FW16B (by Newey ) with the RS6 3.5L V10 did had handling unpredictability (up to the Senna time) but not unreliability problems, in fact it was the Benetton which had to content with the unreliability of the Ford/Cosworth/Zetec R 3.5L air valve V8.

Senna forever

April 07, 2013 8:21 PM

"Schumacher/Benetton, won championship with a car which was far from the best"
it was certainly the best at hiding all it's little cheats tho, without those the great Schumacher wouldn't have the same amount of championships to his name for sure

Senna forever

April 07, 2013 8:30 PM

let's be unbiased here, Vettel is a quality driver and yes maybe he wasn't in the 'best' car through 2012 but for sure he ONLY won the championship through McLaren tripping over themselves with unreliability and rubbish pit stops ..... least we forget keke Rosberg won the championship with ONE race win and he certainly wasn't in the 'best' car, another class driver but he had reliability on his side, so it's not just down to the driver or the car, other factors include the opposition performing badly too

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