F1 » McNish: Mercedes favouring Hamilton


Allan McNish says he feels Mercedes is putting its backing behind Lewis Hamilton in the 2013 F1 title race

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Salan

April 09, 2013 5:10 PM

Bob, What can I say, I understood your analysis in your first post without you having to explain it further. However there is a flip argument to your prognosis which is if Rosberg wasn't able to overtake Hamilton during the race and was asking to overtake him when the race was at it's end when it was evident his team mate was basically limping. The team felt it unfair for Hamilton to give up his position on account of the fuel issue miscalculated by the team and as such issued the order to hold station.

richard

April 09, 2013 6:16 PM

salan. change some names, and you have the exact same situation at rbr.......webber used too much fuel in the first part of the race, and was deep in the red. possibly saving fuel when he began backing vettel towards the mercs. after the pit stop, he was told to turn down his engine so as to ensure that he got to the end. vettel passed him and webber fought back, and then kept pace. this seems to indicate that webber did not in fact turn down his engine, or that vettel was also using a turned down engine. vettel knew he had the fuel to finish, as did nico. i can fully understand nico being totally upset.

lets hope that such silly goings on do not happen again, as they bring the sport into disrepute.

Senna forever

April 09, 2013 6:34 PM

@ john,
sorry john , i've just watched the end of the race again and it definitely looked to me that Vettel was swerving from side to side coming out of the last corner to approach the finish line, No need to get your knickers in a bunch I was only making the comment not criticising your hero ok

Salan

April 09, 2013 7:03 PM

I see you've thrown your hat in the ring Richard, Your quite right to some degree however we were not privy to the radio messages at RBR in relation to conserving fuel. With Mercedes however Ross was quite explicit when he told Nico to hold position and had to explain further. Nevertheless we don't need this type of racing so early in the season.

107SS2009

April 09, 2013 7:15 PM

Richard, all drivers are contracted and paid to DRIVE FOR THE TEAM, as I understand it driving for a team means working for that team and not against (directly or indirectly) the team or its interests as perceived by the team at the time of issuing an order, it is immaterial if an order is liked or not, turns out to be right or wrong, if a team cannot exercise strict control over anyone that is part of the team and that includes a contracted driver that team is seriously mismanaged.

richard

April 09, 2013 7:28 PM

salan. the info on fuel consumption in webbers car, HAS been publicly acknowledged. what we do not have as yet, is any confirmation that webber did in fact turn down his engine, or if he did, and vettel did as well. i am totally puzzled how a car with a turned down engine could fight with and pace a car whose engine was not turned down.

sunny. i doubt that any two contracts are the same. none of us know what is in the fine print, but each driver has his own management team, who negotiates a contract for their employer to drive for a team. the team pay the fee and then the management team sort out all the taxes and relevant charges. but i believe that NO driver is considered an employee of the team

107SS2009

April 09, 2013 8:00 PM

Richard, no I don't know any of the drivers contract details but I consider a contracted driver as being an employee and an employee to me means working for the employer and not against in any which way ever.
Re fuel saving and such like (last race) also number one and number two drivers (at Mercedes), I have a gut feeling that everybody and his dog were taken for a ride, in short I believe it was a bucket full of BS.
To me it looked more like both RBR and Mercedes decided that the points haul at the time both team orders were issued were the safest bet (there was more to risk than gain by letting drivers race it out), and I am in no way saying it was good to watch.

richard

April 09, 2013 8:18 PM

sunny. isnt it odd that merc wanted the driver with the most points , so far, (lulu) to go even further ahead of nico, whereas rbr wanted the drier with most points (vettel) to lose points and bring webber up?
same situation but different stratagies.

anyway, i hope that such decisions are not made unless vital at end of season.

ps. still working?

107SS2009

April 09, 2013 8:47 PM

Richard, sorry but I don't see it that way, as I believe the (save fuel) thing was all BS (detractor) for a safe points haul.
It (the save fuel) order/instructions was much more in vogue/used some time ago when engines started to be used for more than one race, fuel saving mode (there are more than one level of setting on the steering wheel) simply means lower maximum engine revs with correspondingly lower shift points, remember that the racing up shifts are done inside a 500 rpm bracket which falls in between 17500 and 18000 rpm where the engine is not producing any additional power to its maximum output.

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