F1 » F1 China 2013: I'd probably do same again, says Vettel

Sebastian Vettel: I think I'm the kind of guy that respects team decisions but on the other hand Mark is not the one that deserved it [the victory] at the time.

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FreeJack - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 11:09 PM

@Richard - Although Vettel may have turned down his engine, it has been reported that he still had the use of a much higher percentage of his horsepower than Webber and the gap that he created at the end of the race, after passing Webber, amply demonstrated that. He didn't spend the entire race in Webber's rear view mirror, only to put Webber in the dust without assistance, in the last 12 laps or so. During the race, I assumed that Webber had lost his KERS (as usual) or something along those lines, to account for the huge gap at the end. Being on fresh tires, it didn't make any sense that he'd lose so much ground, so fast. We now know that he lost that ground because he had less motor.

So yes, my assertion is that Vettel heard and fully understood the instruction he'd been given, he just chose not to hold station, in spite of the fact that Webber's car had its performance compromised more than Vettel's, after turning engines down. It was an unfair advantage, and isn't down to racing a


April 11, 2013 11:38 PM

@ Mark

"With team orders asking drivers to hold position is different than asking them to swap positions."

Not Really. either order is a order not to race.

"the argument for team orders is that the team didn't want to stress the engines or gearboxes given the FIA imposed limitations."

yea if you really believe that was why Vettel was told to "hold position ", would they have asked him to Not Stress the Engine if he was in third place fighting for a second place finish.

"Plus they probably didn't want to risk another incident like in Turkey."

I don't know enough about this incident to comment on it, but this is supposed to be RACING, and racing at its highest level, incidents will happen, engines will break.

I will bet any other team would have gladly destroyed a engine and/or gearbox if they new it would give them a First place finish, who knows what they would gladly destroy for a One Two finish.

Would you sit behind a slower driver knowing full well you could win

kiwibob - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 11:40 PM

richard what is said after the event does not change it he disobeyed team orders which you know have always been in F1 and if you had an employee do it to you or you did it to your boss then you would expect to get your ass kicked yet vettell says he will do it again wow what a team player he is . And again when Mark did it he still didn,t finish the moves he just showed he was not happy the same as nico last gp Turkey was another of sebs brain fades he is a lost loser cannon than lewis

rob01 - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 11:41 PM

Had Mark not cried while getting out of the car no one would have been the wiser. It should have been handled behind closed doors like the other times these two have disregarded team orders. How Mark could shed tears after what he did to Vettel in Brazil is beyond me. I thought Aussie's were a tough bunch? It took some nerve to get upset with all that Mark has done against his own team mate for years.

Grahamewis - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 12:02 AM

Vettel has forgotten it is red bull that have provided him the best car on the grid for the last three (4?) years and while he has talent, lets be honest, its hardly his incredible awesome amazing talent that has won his titles. Frankly any of the top four could have done so with that level of car advantage. I would argue Alonso or ham would not have had any of his ridiculous child like spats when he was not provided his usual 1 second advantage that's for sure. The trouble is he has forgotten that fact and now feels his titles make him better than anyone or any team.. Tough to win anything without a car Seb! The rights and wrongs of his actions are pretty irrelevant (although going past your team mate when he has his engine turned down and using drs and a slipstream stinks) fact is sv clearly thinks he can do what he wants and grab a win no matter what. Hilarious frankly - let's see what he can do when he finally has to go (or has the balls/arrogance/stupidity - take your choice) to d

Mark _

April 12, 2013 12:13 AM

@TheArtist - I don't agree with the orders I was just playing devil's advocate to your questions. In Turkey Vettel and Webber crashed into each other when neither would back down.

@Grahamewis - The RBR couldn't be that great as Webber has never even finished runner up in the WDC.

EX F1 fan! - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 12:19 AM

All I can say now is that the guy is an egotistical joke. The biggest problem in Red Bull is that as MW said " he will be protected again". Quite frankly after that farce of a race, I don't have much interest in F1 as the penultimate racing as it clearly not true racing anymore, just team rules as to who should win. great pity that such a sport has sunk to this level. I am guessing, but i assume that this began with Schui, and the contracts that no one was allowed to pass him. I think I will stick to 2 wheel racing, at least they don't have communications between rider & pits.

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