F1 » F1 China 2013: I'd probably do same again, says Vettel

Sebastian Vettel: I think I'm the kind of guy that respects team decisions but on the other hand Mark is not the one that deserved it [the victory] at the time.

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April 11, 2013 1:13 PM

bruce. do you not think that it is webber who had stupid intentions? he deliberately steered vettel towards the pit wall. that could have put BOTH of the cars out. then on slowing down lap, he came alongside vettel and swerved in towards him.
the fia considered censuring him for his actions, but decided not to.
i would like to think that webber is mature enough not to deliberately cause an accident, as some here are suggesting. although the actions above seem to indicate otherwise.

Zootsuit - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 1:26 PM

Horner has already stated that Webber had his engine turned down more than Vettel. There was no race, it was a steal. If there were no team orders it just wouldn't have happened. Webber and his engineer would have managed the gap rather than go into full-safety mode. I would love to get inside Vettel's head and understand just under what criteria Webber did not 'deserve' to win given the team had turned off and they were all meant to cruise home.

Jim Clausen

April 11, 2013 1:28 PM
Last Edited 1035 days ago

What do some of you want to see? A predetermined order of finish? What's with all the negative comments about Vettel RACING to win? Isn't there a gardening program televised on Sundays for you team order types to watch instead of a F1 race? You definitely don't care for RACING!


April 11, 2013 1:32 PM

Red Bull are reducing team orders, it's on the BBC. Now i think most are against them but it does show there has been no sanction for Seb.
Additionally he has been quoted as saying he might ignore them in the future anyway.
So he got a real telling off and it will never happen again...oops sorry no, that's in an alternate universe.

Jim Clausen

April 11, 2013 1:35 PM

The issue of team orders should be settled by an outright ban of same. Stripping of points for the team who issues team finishing orders. If the drivers themselves want to contrive a finish, so be it, but never should there be team orders to a finish.


April 11, 2013 1:37 PM
Last Edited 1034 days ago

@ Richard

"ALL" of this started in 2009 when Vettel punted into Mark because of Hamilton, and cost Mark possible victory.
Then Turkey with a RB engineered move causing Seb to crash into Mark.

Before then has Mark ever disobeyed orders or done anything sinical ???

Yet you continue that Webber is the bad guy that has done everything wrong, but yet has had most things done bad against him by RB.


Also answer my question in another thread: How many times has Mark actually disobeyed team orders........ To my count it is actually "ONCE" and not the "MANY" times you claim.

EDIT by CRASH.NET! Personal attack removed.

Daniel - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 1:41 PM

This could be the best thing that ever happened to this team. The charade should be finally over. Sportsmanship is a rare quality in F1. Probably the reason Fangio is still considered the best. Prost, Senna, Schumacher, now Vettel, equally great drivers but lacking the elegance, grace and sportsmanship of Fangio. I suspect that if Alonso or Raikonen were given the same order they would get on the air and say "f-ck off". Vettel should have jumped on the air and said "no", giving Webber time to adjust. Then it would be a fair fight. People seem to forget that Mark was not expecting the pass. Yes he might have been a bit slower, but if allowed to defend, then things might have been different. All we know is he was sucker punched, in down under we consider that a dog act. If I was RBR I would give Mark his severance cheque now. Things could get ugly.

Bsfdfds - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 1:43 PM

How will this affect his level of trust within the team? I don't like team orders, and like the fact that Seb won't obey it, but how much will the team trust him again though?

Wishbone - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 1:46 PM

@Zootsuit - that's the animal RBR are dealing with. The upshot is plenty of WDCs, the downside is less palatable. You'll find on youtube that Ayrton Senna also believed it was his exclusive right to win (nothwithstanding that they are very different) but there are shared psychological traits among multiple WDCs.. Reasonable people tend to be found in other professions!

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