F1 » F1 China 2013: I'd probably do same again, says Vettel

Sebastian Vettel: I think I'm the kind of guy that respects team decisions but on the other hand Mark is not the one that deserved it [the victory] at the time.

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John - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 5:12 PM

"It's only a sport and a forum full of different opinions. None of it matters."

Unfortunately it's a forum full of stupid bigots being stupidly bigoted.

John - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 5:18 PM

Horner does not call the shots at Red Bull - Mateschitz does.

Mateschitz is against team orders - that is why neither Weber nor Vettel ever get punished for ignoring orders.

Witless remarks about Vettel "giving the finger" to Horner come from people who know essentially nothing about the matter at hand. As it happens they also know essentially nothing about F1, full stop.

John - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 5:22 PM

"Whether you agree with team orders or not...they are a part of F1. People (drivers included) need to remember that the focus of the teams in F1 is the Constructor Championship...not individual driver glory. They pour millions of $ into the car for that reason...not individual driver glory."

The person pouring millions into Red Bull Racing is named Dietrich Mateschitz, and HE does not want his drivers to be given team orders. Whether you agree with his position or not, that IS his position.

it would help matters considerably if some of the "F1 fans" around here knew what they were talking about.

John - Not that John - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 5:50 PM

Like it or not, there were team orders at the time and they were ignored. You can't make excuses saying the top man doesn't want team orders anyway... That's irrelevant, they were in place and used during the race. There could have been any number of reasons for the instruction to hold station and bring the cars home, Vettel couldn't know what the consequences of ignoring that order may have been. So, team orders were ignored by someone who thinks he is bigger than the team (his comments seem to prove that point). There's not much point arguing over what should or should not have been, none of us were on the pit wall that day, so none of us know (no matter how self important some think they are). F1 is a team sport and it is the combined talents of those teams which deliver the spectacle we love to watch... No just our favourite drivers.

Mayziedays - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 6:20 PM

Hey John! (yes that one): Yes - I am an F1 fan, Yes - I am a girl and Yes - I do know what I am talking about.

Points are worth big money in F1 regardless of who is winning them. Red Bull received more money from winning the Constructors championship then they received from Vettel winning the Drivers championship.

While Mateschitz maybe the one funding the team and may be against team orders, I am pretty sure he wants to win the Constructors Championship more than the Drivers Championship. If it came down to team orders to preserve that championship, I am pretty sure he would be just fine with them.

F1 is a team sport and without the backing of a strong team...Vettel would probably not be a three time world champ.

bruce - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 6:36 PM

The groundswell of opinion in this thread seems to heavily anti-Vettel. Must be really galling to Vettel and his supporters knowing that you are so, so, so right but nobody agrees with you.

Wishbone - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 6:39 PM

@ Mayziedays - I totally see your point and agree with your rationale, but that is utopia. Drivers generally are egotistical, so more interested in individual success to satisy that ego and increase their market value. Obviously teams need to constructor points to pay for it all and justify the resources. So F1 represents cognitive dissonance when considered a team sport, a bit like if Russell Brand moved into the Waltons..

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