F1 » Horner insists 'healthy driver rivalry' no problem


"I think it's a healthy rivalry, even though they took things into their own hands," insists Red Bull team principal.

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John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 6:08 PM

It's rather like the position of Alex Ferguson at Man United vs the position of whoever is the manager of Chelsea at any moment. The people who own Man U don't involve themselves at all in the operations of the club, while Roman Abramovich DOES involve himself a good deal in what goes on at Chelsea.

carminetriumph - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 6:13 PM

Horner must be getting fed up with being the mouth piece for all this Red Bull. Best thing Horner and Newey and poss Mark could do is clear off to Williams and help rebuild a once great team.

107SS2009

April 12, 2013 6:15 PM

John, Horner (the RBR team principal) was at the pit wall managing the team, the CEO of RBR was not out there, Horner gave an order and his driver ignored it, his authority was totally ignored, the CEO had nothing to do with this.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 6:16 PM

I do have sympathy for Horner's position here, but the rage at Vettel is comically misplaced. For one thing, Webber has been ignoring Horners team orders for years - where was all this worry about Horner being undermined while that was going on?

The reality is that both Vettel and Webber are "protected" from the consequences of disobeying Horner by Horner's boss - Mateschitz.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 6:21 PM

"Horner gave an order and his driver ignored it, his authority was totally ignored"


That's happened often over the years, but as long as the driver ignoring Horner was not named "Vettel" nobody ever seemed the least bit concerned about it. If anything people actually cheered when Webber defied Horner.

And Webber was "protected" in his actions by the man who writes the paychecks - Mateschitz.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 6:26 PM

"Horner gave an order and his driver ignored it, his authority was totally ignored, the CEO had nothing to do with this."

Horners orders were in defiance of HIS bosses orders. I see a lot of people here saying "You have to obey your bosses orders!" That applies to Horner too, and he was NOT obeying his boss.

It seems likely that the reason Horner was giving orders in code - "multi21" - was to keep his boss in the dark about what was going on.

107SS2009

April 12, 2013 6:28 PM

John, for your information I lost all sympathy for Horner a long time ago, that's since when Webber started to bad mouth the team and not only ignoring team orders but boosted to have done so, and I expressed myself on here to that effect at the time.

107SS2009

April 12, 2013 6:41 PM

BS, Horner's order was not in defiance of his bosses, it is immaterial if his boss/s agreed with his way of managing the team at the time or not.
do you know/understand what a Captain of a ship means?

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 6:53 PM

"do you know/understand what a Captain of a ship means?"

You're a bit confused about who the captain of the good ship Red Bull is. Whether you like it or not, it's the Austrian fellow who owns the drinks company and who writes Horner's paychecks.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 7:01 PM

"Horner gave an order and his driver ignored it, his authority was totally ignored, the CEO had nothing to do with this."


The CEO has banned team orders at Red Bull Racing. Seems like that has a LOT to do with it. If your boss says "Do X" and your bosses boss says "Don't do X", which do you listen to? Unless you're stupid you listen to your bosses boss.

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