F1 » Horner insists 'healthy driver rivalry' no problem


"I think it's a healthy rivalry, even though they took things into their own hands," insists Red Bull team principal.

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107SS2009

April 12, 2013 7:05 PM

Again, it's a bucketful of BS, the Captain of a ship is the one that takes any and all decisions while managing a ship, the owner/s doesn't have a say in that, if the owner/s doesn't agree with the way a Captain manages their ship they can always replace him.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 7:06 PM

@"it is immaterial if (Horners) boss/s agreed with his way of managing the team at the time or not."


I had not realized you had such a flair for comedy. It's clear that Mateschitz regards it as very material, and also that he's had a word with Horner on the subject, which is why Horner is now saying that there will be no more team orders at Red Bull.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 7:10 PM

@"the owner/s doesn't have a say in that"

You are not describing the world as it actually is, but the world as you think it should be. The owner DOES have a say in that.

What you meant to say was "In my opinion the owner should not involve himself in questions of team orders within his team". Obviously the owner begs to differ.

107SS2009

April 12, 2013 7:18 PM

But I did realize some time ago that you had a flair for BS over here.
What Mateschitz regards it like (likes it or not) is immaterial, the man entrusted to manage the team gave an order and his authority was totally ignored by his driver and this not for the first time.

richard

April 12, 2013 7:24 PM

sunny. before the season started, didi said that both drivers were to be treated EQUALLY. i cannot see how telling one driver not to pass another is treating both equally.
didi is a very quiet person and does not usually get involved, but in this case, he has told horner that team orders are NOT to be used. to me , that sounds as if he was quite upset at what horner did.

yes, horner can make decisions, but if they are contrary to what the owner wants, it is not surprising that didi puts him right.

but the real question is WHY did horner make this odd decision. could it have something to do with it being webbers 200th start, and horner and webber being team partners in f3? a celebration win, perhaps?

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 7:46 PM

"What Mateschitz regards it like (likes it or not) is immaterial, the man entrusted to manage the team gave an order"

And order which Mateschitz said he could not issue, and a order which both Webber and Vettel knew that Horner could not enforce precisely because the order was against Mateschitz's wishes.

107SS2009

April 12, 2013 7:48 PM

Richard, this Horner team order while managing the team had nothing to do with driver's equality.
Didi as the owner can if he so wish put Horner right but he cannot change that order.
Odd decision? Could you have seen Horner's order to Webber at Silverstone as odd at that time?
I don't see Didi as you see him at all, I see Didi as being happy at the way the team is run contrary to the assurances that he gives Webber.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 7:48 PM

I see the button clicking chimps are back again. All you accomplish by clicking "I disagree" with "2+2=4" is to make yourselves look stupid.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 7:53 PM

"the Captain of a ship is the one that takes any and all decisions while managing a ship"


No such captain exists in the real world. Any captain who deifies the owners orders to sail to New York and instead sails to Bermuda would be instantly relieved of command. Any of the crew who ignored the captains orders would get a pat on the back.

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