F1 » Horner insists 'healthy driver rivalry' no problem


"I think it's a healthy rivalry, even though they took things into their own hands," insists Red Bull team principal.

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John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 8:16 PM

Your curious obsession with peoples "nuts" aside, it is not the case that the captain of a modern ship possesses the near absolute powers you think he does.

A couple of hundred years ago in the days of sail and no radio communications, a ships captain did possess immense power. Today the captain is just another employee and he follows orders like everyone else.

FreeJack - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 8:29 PM

Okay, so this interview and article tells me that Horner is weak and isn't going to take a firm hand in anything. He's saying that any instruction from him to the drivers is basically just "information" or a "suggestion" which they will then feel free to ignore, if they so choose. So good, I say...I hope Webber ignores any and all suggestions from Horner for the rest of the season, listens to his race engineers instead, and just manages his own race.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 8:38 PM

@"I hope Webber ignores any and all suggestions from Horner for the rest of the season"


As opposed to how Webber behaved last season? Or the season before? Or the season before that?

What's with all you people who used to cheer Webber for ignoring team orders and who now seem to think that he has always obeyed them?

richard

April 12, 2013 8:51 PM

john. well said. and true.
watching f1 show, and all were discussing that neither driver is now prepared to follow orders, and also point out that webber was the first to act like that.

anyway, it is now all academic. there are NO team orders. thanks for some sense, didi.

ps the ship analogy is interesting. look at the concordia... the captain gave orders that were in contravention to what the owner had said, and look at hat happened!

107SS2009

April 12, 2013 9:28 PM

“Curious obsession with peoples nuts” that's what real men are measured with.
The Captain of a ship past or present, old or modern have and posses the right to give orders and such orders have to be obeyed, if such orders are not obeyed the authority of a Captain is undermined.
“John well said and true” well said and true my leg, if at Red Bull neither driver is prepared to follow team orders that will certainly be a new standard in F1 team management.
Richard, the Concordia example is unbelievable coming from a man of your calibre.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 9:39 PM

@'The Captain of a ship past or present, old or modern have and posses the right to give orders and such orders have to be obeyed"

No, they don't. They have the right to give certain orders and have them be obeyed. If a modern ships captain ordered his first mate to flog a crewman, that order would be refused. Ships captains have the right to give such orders are are allowed by law and are in accordance with the wishes of the captains boss.

In this case the "captains boss" is Dietrich Mateschitz , and he has ordered the "captain" - Horner - to not give team orders to Vettel or Webber.

If Horner doesn't like that, he's free to quit.

John - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 9:45 PM

"if at Red Bull neither driver is prepared to follow team orders that will certainly be a new standard in F1 team management."

Yeah, because F1 hasn't seen anything like that since ... well, since Hamilton and Alonso at McLaren in 2007. Other than that, a TOTALLY new standard.

(If we don't count Red Bull in 2012, of course, where neither driver followed team orders)

Gweedgw - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 9:55 PM

Looks like alot of you guys are top managers. Horner this, Horner that...last time I checked the guy achieved quite a bit in his role as manager of a f1 racing team....or is your memory that short?

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