F1 » F1 China 2013: Webber to start from back after fuel penalty

Red Bull's Mark Webber will have to start from the back of the grid after being penalised for running out of fuel in the second round of qualifying.

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Martin (not Whitmarsh) - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 4:39 PM

"Let's get off the conspiracy theories please, why would RBR intentionally underfuel Mark's car?"

What if .... Red Bull know they aren't quick enough to win this race on merit.

So what if Red Bull deliberately sent Webber to the back of the grid where he can start on fresh rubber and quickly bring himself to a position where he can hold up the lead drivers on options (Hamilton, Alonso, Raikonnen) after they make their first early pit stops, allowing Vettel on the primes to get away?

Only problem is Mark wouldn't agree to that would he? But now he is last he hasn't got much choice.

P.S. Great job Hamilton! But I think it will be Alonso for the win tomorrow.

PPS With every passing week, Heiki Kovalainen looks a lot better than people gave him credit for when he was at McLaren alongside Hamilton. It's a disgrace that a driver of his class is not in F1 when you see some of the muggish clumsy drivers at the back, like the massively overhyped Bottas!!

AMG - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 4:48 PM

@richard You are watching F1 since the 50's but apparently you can't remember the recent years. How many times Webber was behind Vettel and he was told to save fuel or save tyres? Webber has been used to hold back the other drivers and of course Vettel will need him to win more points in the future. Since they crashed in Turkey 2010, Redbull realised that they had to choose one driver and they chose Vettel. I think that's obvious. And it's obvious that Webber won't accept to help Vettel if he's also fighting for the championship, that's why for RBR it's better that Webber drops points now.

I've watched F1 only since the 90's and it's more than enough time to realise that F1 is probably the sport with the biggest amount of egos involved and with the biggest amount of dirty tricks.

shaken - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 4:53 PM

F1 cars are supposed to be the most advanced "up-to-date" cars in the whole entire world. That we can drive our everyday cars and not run out of petrol (or diesel) but F1 drivers cannot cos they run out of fuel is stating the ridiculously obvious.

seenit - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 5:05 PM

How many times has Vettel had a serious off during practice but it is Webbers car that has mechanical problems during the race maybe just maybe it's because the good parts from Webbers car are transferred to vettels car eg one new nose cone. It helps to be the bosses golden hair boy if Vettel fails the whole Redbull young drivers programme is a failure just a thought.

Wishbone - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 6:04 PM

OK Martin (not Whitmarsh) let's suggest for a mad moment you're correct - would it not then be better to send Mark out in Q3 with a new set of primes for one lap? Then he starts the race from 10th on near as new primes? Or would you really deliberately underfuel him so that he starts from last with primes 2 laps fresher than he would in 10th and risk getting taken out in the opening lap melee?

Vinnie Barbarinno - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 6:06 PM

It sounds like it was done on purpose to Webber only because Vettel did what he did with running an istallation lap. And had he not then there would have been a high chance that Webber would have been in front of Vettel for the first half or until Webber pitted. They are entitled to run different strategies right....

Martin (not Whitmarsh) - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 6:17 PM

@Wishbone - OK Martin (not Whitmarsh) let's suggest for a mad moment you're correct - would it not then be better to send Mark out in Q3 with a new set of primes for one lap? Then he starts the race from 10th on near as new primes?

You think Mark Webber, who has looked faster than Vettel all weekend, would deliberately sabotage his own Q3 strategy to help Vettel? Given what happened in Malaysia do you think the Red Bull management would even have the nerve to ask him to do so?

But short fuel him and shove him to the back and he now has no choice. As he comes through the field in search of points for his own self-interest he may also hold up Vettel's rivals and inadvertently help his arch enemy in the process.

Stranger sacrifices of one team mate to assist another have happened in F1 ..cough ..... Singapore '08 ..... cough ......


April 13, 2013 6:18 PM

vinnie. so the fia are now complicit as well? in case you missed quali. webber ran out of fuel in q2, BEFORE vettels even went out in q3.

i think that these posts are getting sillier and sillier. i am sure that if there was even the slightest whiff of fixing or sabotage, then webber would leave immediately.

funny when other drivers have problems, there is little or no such comments

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